Adopting AppData in KDE?

Richard Hughes hughsient at gmail.com
Sun Nov 3 20:26:55 GMT 2013


On 3 November 2013 17:15, Thomas Lübking <thomas.luebking at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think everyone who read this thread was immediately aware that the "high
> quality applications" argument is "flawed" (i've actually another term in
> mind)

Sure, that might be true, but that's not what I was originally trying
to help with. AppData was written to make a kickass application
installer, not as any way to validate how awesome an app might or
might not be. I think this thread has diverged from that original
message, which may be somewhat my fault.

> some essential CLI tools would have to be considered
> "utter crap", because they work the way they are since a decade - and they
> do not even provide screenshots!!!)

Sure, we're not showing any CLI tools that don't include a desktop
file in gnome-software. People wanting to install CLI apps are more
than capable of using the CL to find them and install them. Apper
still shows packages in KDE.

> * does it presently qualify as "standard" at all? (not as long as it states
> particular tools - like gnome i18n, as claimed by David)

Well, it's my standard, and I'm happy to do the extra work if any
other desktop requires it. If you send me a website patch with an
example on how to localize the XML file on KDE, I'd merge it.

> * what are the benefits of this particular standard over pot. competitors?

I think I've covered that in http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/appdata/

> * what are the deficits of this particular standard?

I'm not sure I'm the ideal person to ask :)

> * who is in control of the standard?

Me I guess.

> * what are the benefits in controlling the standard?

I'm not sure on how to answer that.

> * What are the goals? Is it actually supposed to become a gatekeeper ("high
> quality applications" at best, "you use what i tell you"/"walled garden" at
> worst) tool?

No. That's a tiny ancillary featurette that we're using for GNOME. We
might decide in the future that an app can't be featured if it has no
screenshots. I don't know yet. There is no gatekeeper or walled
garden.

> * in case, by what technique (expert review, voting, etc.), ie. who becomes
> the gatekeeper?

I'm not super interested in doing that at all. It's likely the ratings
is controlled by the distro and desktop, but I'm hoping to not get too
involved in that as it's so political.

Richard




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