[Nepomuk] The Nepomuk Situation
Vishesh Handa
me at vhanda.in
Wed May 16 20:52:56 BST 2012
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 05/16/2012 09:16 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Pushed my stuff to branch "feature/nepomuk2Includes".
> >
> > Feel free to implement Ivan's fancier solution. In that case my
> branch
> > might at least help in finding the places where stuff needs
> replacing.
> > If you do not I would appreciate a look over my branch to check if I
> > missed sth.
> >
> >
> > I will implement it, but not today. You'd missed one place. I've
> > corrected it.
> >
> > So now you just need to use the same script on your scratch
> > repositories.
>
> Well, if you want to implement Ivan's idea that should be applied to the
> scratch repos, too.
>
Lets just get this done, before we try anything fancy. The hard feature
freeze is tomorrow.
>
> > Also, do you know anything about translations?
>
> Hm, we should ask the l10n team about it before removing the code from
> kde-runtime.
>
Probably. Do you want me to email everyone? (packagers, release-team and
i18n)
>
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sebastian
> >
> > On 05/16/2012 08:37 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
> > > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 05/16/2012 08:23 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > > > What about kdelibs/nepomuk/utils/* and the other ui stuff?
> > > >
> > > > Or since those are just APIs they can wait.
> > >
> > > I say let's postpone them, they are still in kdelibs.
> > >
> > >
> > > The facets are quite weird and I am not sure about releasing
> > them again.
> > > The ui stuff - not sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > We have all the runtime stuff and nepomuk-core, that's all that
> > matters
> > > right now.
> > >
> > > So, we just need to do -
> > >
> > > 1. use the Nepomuk2 namespace, and nepomuk2 include directory
> > > 2. Remove kde-runtime/nepomuk
> > >
> > > Regarding 1, I like Ivan's suggestion about
> > BEGIN_NEPOMUK_NAMESPACE. If
> > > you want I can take care of it.
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Sebastian Trüg
> > <trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
> > > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>
> > > > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I now prepared the required repositories:
> > > >
> > > > scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-kio
> > > > contains the 3 Nepomuk kio slaves
> > > >
> > > > scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-config
> > > > contains the KCM and the controller systray app
> > > >
> > > > The question is: where should we move them? Something
> like
> > > "KDE/Base"?
> > > > I suppose questions like these have already been
> discussed
> > > with respect
> > > > to KDE5?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Sebastian
> > > >
> > > > On 05/07/2012 03:58 PM, Sebastian Trüg wrote:
> > > > > On 05/07/2012 03:47 PM, ivan.cukic at gmail.com
> > <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com>>
> > > > <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com
> > <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com> <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com
> > <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > > >> Maybe there could be something like qt has -
> > > > BEGIN_NEPOMUK_NAMESPACE... So that if the same needs to
> > be done in
> > > > the future, we could just change the macro value.
> > > > >
> > > > > That would be much more work since each cpp file has
> the
> > > namespaces in
> > > > > the method definitions.
> > > > >
> > > > >> I don't know, thinking that Nepomuk2 namespace is
> looking
> > > rather
> > > > ugly :)
> > > > >
> > > > > it is indeed.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The dirtiest solution library-wise would be to have
> > > everything in
> > > > NepomukCore::Nepomuk::Something so that the only change
> > in the
> > > > current code of nepomuk users would be a using namespace
> > > NepomukCore;
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sorry for being a bit vague, I'm writing from my
> phone.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cheerio,
> > > > >> IvanOn 7.5.12. 14.49 Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Sebastian Trüg
> > > <trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org> <mailto:trueg at kde.org
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>
> > > > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 05/07/2012 02:35 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Sebastian Trüg
> > > <trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org> <mailto:trueg at kde.org
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>
> > > > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>
> > > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
> > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 05/07/2012 12:09 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > So, we're down to 3 options -
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > *1.* nepomuk-core become a dependency of
> kdelibs.
> > > Kdelibs
> > > > is not
> > > > >>> touched.
> > > > >>> > *Problem:* Overlapping headers and possible
> > mysterious
> > > > crashes if both
> > > > >>> > libraries are loaded.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > *2.* nepomuk-core installs headers under
> > nepomuk2. It's
> > > > released
> > > > >>> > independently.
> > > > >>> > *Problem:* Mysterious crashes if both
> > libraries are
> > > loaded.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > *3.* nepomuk-core installs headers under
> nepomuk2
> > > and the
> > > > namespace is
> > > > >>> > changed to nepomuk2.
> > > > >>> > *Problem:* A lot more work :(
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Well, I suppose we could make this work with
> > some sed
> > > magic. :P
> > > > >>> I would vote for option 3 which could then be
> > reverted (or
> > > > not) for
> > > > >>> kde5.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I would prefer option 2.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The mysterious crashes would only happen if an
> > > application's plugin
> > > > >>> links to the incorrect libraries.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Is that a possibility for us?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I already experienced that. Took me a while to find
> > the reason.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alright.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I would like the Nepomuk2 namespace and include
> > directories be
> > > > removed for the frameworks, but I guess it is not a big
> deal
> > > if that
> > > > doesn't happen.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Okay, everyone. This is the point where you chime in
> > and say -
> > > > "We're okay with this" or you raise your objections. We
> > would like
> > > > to get this mess sorted in time for the 4.9 release.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org>>
> > > <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org>
> > <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org>>>
> > > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk
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> > <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org>>
> > > <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org>
> > <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org <mailto:Nepomuk at kde.org>>>
> > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Vishesh Handa
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Vishesh Handa
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> > Vishesh Handa
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>
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