[Nepomuk] The Nepomuk Situation

[Sebastian Trüg]

nepomuk-core depends on kdelibs. So kdelibs cannot depend on
nepomuk-core. We would have to get rid of those dependencies in kdelibs.
But that should not be too hard.

On 05/03/2012 11:21 AM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> I just noticed that this discussion is no longer cced to kcd.
> 
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Christian Mollekopf
> <chrigi_1 at fastmail.fm <mailto:chrigi_1 at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
> 
>      
>      
>     On Thu, May 3, 2012, at 02:22 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Christian Mollekopf
>>     <chrigi_1 at fastmail.fm <mailto:chrigi_1 at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
>>
>>         > On Thursday 03 May 2012 00.32:37 Vishesh Handa wrote:
>>         >
>>         > Hey everyone!
>>         >
>>         Hey Vishesh,
>>
>>
>>     Hey Christian
>>
>>
>>         Glad your tackling this, it's indeed a rather painful situation.
>>
>>         >
>>         > So, we need a solution.
>>         >
>>         > The first solution -
>>         > * Remove nepomuk from kdelibs and kde-runtime
>>         > * Make nepomuk-core a compile time dependency for kdelibs
>>         > * Including the missing gui code into nepomuk-core
>>         >
>>         > The second solution is -
>>         > * nepomuk-core installs the headers in nepomuk2
>>         > * the library already has a different name, so there are no
>>         clashes over
>>         there
>>         > * kde-runtime/nepomuk is removed
>>         > * nepomuk-core is added as a dependency of kde-runtime
>>         >
>>         > The problem with the second solution is that all
>>         applications using Nepomuk
>>         will also need to depend on nepomuk-core. So far the list
>>         includes - Dolphin,
>>         KDE-pim and Telepathy (kinda)
>>         >
>>          
>>         I would suggest to create two repostories. One "nepomuk-core"
>>         containing the
>>         dependencies of kdelibs (respectively nepomuks core
>>         libraries), and another
>>         one "nepomuk2" containing the dms and possibly other stuff
>>         which depends on
>>         kdelibs (and in the future the required parts of kf5). That
>>         would give you
>>         clean dependencies without copies of code, which I think would
>>         be rather ugly
>>         (assuming that the "missing gui code" would be a copy of
>>         kdelibs code).
>>
>>
>>     I do not think this would be possible. Cause kdelibs requires
>>     parts of the new APIS (Datamanagent APIs), for now we have just
>>     copied some of the headers, and cpp files and are duplicating stuff.
>>
>>     I would really want to avoid fragmenting nepomuk even more. Having
>>     2 repositories with related code is something that we want to avoid.
>>      
>>      
>>     Indeed, if the code is related you don't want to split it. I
>>     suppose I don't really understand your two suggestions then.
>>     I would just depend on nepomuk-core from kdelibs/kde-runtime (if
>>     necessary) and every application that uses nepomuk (if you're
>>     using it, depend on it).
>>     I don't think you should try to keep applications from depending
>>     on stuff they need, because that also gives the option not to
>>     depend on it.
>>      
>>     PS: I can't seem to reasonably answer to your html mails, neither
>>     in kmail nor in the webinterface.
>>      
>>     Cheers,
>>     Christian
>>      
>>      
>>
>>
>>         I don't see any problem with applications having to depend on
>>         nepomuk
>>         libraries when they're using it. In contrary I would welcome
>>         repositories
>>         which keep dependencies low, as that opens new possibilities,
>>         such as using
>>         the same libraries in a server environment where you don't
>>         want to pull in
>>         everything including X11.
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>         Christian
>>
>>         > What do you guys think?
>>         >
>>         > [1] https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/nepomuk-core
>>         > [2]
>>         http://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/nepomuk-2-0-and-the-data-
>>         management-service/
>>         <http://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/nepomuk-2-0-and-the-data-%0Amanagement-service/>
>>         >
>>         > --
>>         > Vishesh Handa
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
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>>     --
>>     Vishesh Handa
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