Requested Moratorium on hard to build dependency bumps for KDE 5

[Harald Sitter]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 7, 2011 06:19:52 Ben Cooksley wrote:
>>> The Moratorium would extend to all components of the KDE SC
>>> distribution. Hence kde-core-devel.
>>
>> imho this is impossible, for the reasons Martin noted.
>>
>>> The components affected by the Moratorium - namely the Kernel, X and
>>> ALSA interfaces are not easy to build. For those of us on non-rolling
>>
>> can you provide an answer to Kevin's initial question, namely: what are the
>> actual cases that triggered this concern? e.g. what currently relies on a
>> recent kernel, X or alsa?
>
> I have two examples, Phonon and KWin.
>
> First Phonon. The Xine backend has now been deprecated, and has.
> already broken in applications such as Amarok. The VLC backend gives
> me terrible skipping. Apparently upgrading to a newer version of VLC
> is needed to use it - but that depends on XCB 1.6. I only have 1.5.
> Phonon GStreamer - whilst installable, crashes applications on startup
> - and is therefore unusable. This effectively removes the capability
> to have multimedia playback using a KDE application.
>
> I tried (unsuccessfully unfortunately) to backport some of the fixes
> which would fix the skipping in Phonon VLC - but that didn't work.

I fail to see how this supports the point of having a moratorium, as
only ALSA would be affected whereas in the presented cases it would
appear that it is more of a user space library issue.

regards,
Harald