[KDE Usability] Review Request: Add "Open With" actions to KFileDialog context menu [via KDirOperator]

Harsh J qwertymaniac at gmail.com
Sat Jan 30 04:45:49 GMT 2010



> On 2010-01-28 20:44:45, David Faure wrote:
> > One could wonder if the file dialog really needs to have "open with" menu items. After all this dialog is used to select a file (existing or to be created) for the current application, not for opening files into another application. It seems some users are starting to expect a mini-file-manager in there, which is not exactly what it is. Maybe the usability group could give their input about this.
> 
> Aaron Seigo wrote:
>     "One could wonder if the file dialog really needs to have "open with" menu items."
>     
>     agreed; what exactly are the use cases for this? right now, i don't see any.
> 
> Harsh J wrote:
>     I s'pose it could be helpful to quickly open a file in an alternate program (something like the mini-file-manager) without having to hunt it back down in a proper file manager, to check.
>     
>     Since the dialogs' last location is usually stored (or set based on some scenario), its easier this way to open an opened file in alternate/other sort of programs - when an application does not provide a direct way to do so.
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> Aaron Seigo wrote:
>     is this something that people actually do? it's usually possible to imagine a way to use something, but would it actually be used in this manner? is it a workflow we want to enable/encourage?
>     
>     to me it really sounds like a work-around for other (possible) inefficiencies. it at least doesn't match the stated purpose of these dialogs.
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> David Faure wrote:
>     Yep. I thought we had a "Open this directory in a file manager" button / menu item, but I can't find it anymore. If we had that back, then opening a file from the current directory in another application would simply be two clicks away. I see the point in not having to navigate again there in another app, that's exactly what "open a file manager" would solve, in a more generic way than "open with". It can also be useful for renaming/moving/copying files, etc. ;)

Ok, I'll change it to this in some time. A button would be more easier to spot than a menu item, as per Hayiri Bakici :)

Although Konsole gives the same kind of option in a menu item, probably cause of the lack of buttons in it I guess.


- Harsh


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On 2010-01-28 21:36:52, Harsh J wrote:
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> (Updated 2010-01-28 21:36:52)
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> Review request for kdelibs, usability, Shaun Reich, and David Faure.
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> Summary
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> This patch proposes to use KFileItemActions class to add "Open With" actions to the context menu of selected file(s) in KDirOperator (which is used by KFileDialog).
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> Some points on the implementation:
>  * Added the action under the KDirOperator::FileActions flag
>  * Made openWithActions (a KFileItemActions object) a member of the private KDO class
>  * Initialized the same object in setupActions() method
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> I suppose I must add something to KDirOperator::updatedSelectionDependentActions() but I don't think its necessary as the selected items are retrieved while setting up this menu itself. Would be better to add a reloader there just in case though. Opinions please?
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> Also, is there a way to make the KDirOperator realize the name of the application that's using it? I could use that to block itself out of the suggestions via the traderConstraints. Doesn't look possible afaik.
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> Diffs
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>   /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kfile/kdiroperator.cpp 1081124 
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> Diff: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2757/diff
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> Testing
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> * Selected no items and right clicked - no submenu/separator shows.
> * Selected one item - Open With submenu and sometimes (in cases where only one can open)
>     preferred open with option shows.
> * Selected multiple items - Open With submenu and sometimes (in cases where only one can open)
>     preferred open with option shows.
> * Repeat above two with directories successfully shows the same.
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> Screenshots
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> Open With actions in KFileDialog
>   http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2757/s/305/
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> Thanks,
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> Harsh
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