[PATCH] Detecting notification popup server capabilities

John Tapsell johnflux at gmail.com
Thu Sep 3 14:44:27 BST 2009

2009/9/3 Aurélien Gâteau <aurelien.gateau at canonical.com>:
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> On September 2, 2009, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
>>> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>>>>> As Olivier said,
>>>>> developers should not assume that actions are always displayed, since
>>>>> most knotify notification plugins do not support them.
>>>> "most" as in "numerically greatest". our primary target environment does
>>>> support them, however.
>>> I am not sure what you are talking about. I was referring to the
>>> execute, ktts, logfile, sound, and taskbar plugins.
>> ah, the various outputs. well ... yes. those outputs are not meant to be
>> used for user interaction (obviously :), but that does not mean user
>> interaction is not useful just because they exist.
> Sure, it just means developers should not assume actions are always
> presented to the user.
>>>> and the only cases i can think of that really *require* such actions be
>>>> visible only run in the KDE Workspace (e.g. KDE's power management
>>>> infrastructure).
>>>>> Do you think this patch could be upstreamed?
>>>> imho, no.
>>> Too bad, we will have to keep it Kubuntu specific then. We really need
>>> this to avoid a bad user experience when running KDE applications on
>>> GNOME + notify-osd.
>> what is breaking, exactly? doesn't notify-osd just ignore the actions?
> Unfortunately not: from what I understand (I was not there yet when it was
> designed) some applications really relied on the notification actions (this
> is probably more important on the GNOME side, because the only notification
> output available was notification bubbles, so actions were always there).
> Lots of applications have been patched to detect support for actions and
> behave otherwise if it is not there, but to avoid regressions in
> applications Ubuntu developers would not be able to patch, it was decided
> that while notify-osd would announce it does not support actions, if a
> notification with action is sent to it, it displays an (ugly) dialog instead
> of a bubble. It also does the same if the notification is permanent.

Okay, so shouldn't notify-osd be fixed?


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