RFC: Moving RSIBreak to KDEUtils?

Tom Albers toma at kde.org
Fri Jul 24 17:18:16 BST 2009

Op Friday 24 July 2009 03:57 schreef u:
> > > no; release management really ought to be extended to extragear, but
> > > that's been only half-way managed properly at this point.
> >
> > Anyone can tell why?

It's not half-way managed. There just is no need for it, except for 1 or 2 apps. Most of the apps that get packaged see hardly any development. I rather decided to not create tarballs anymore at each release. Simplifies stuff.

> > > but if the issue is
> > > release management, then we'll end up with hundreds of apps in the main
> > > modules and there will be simply no way to communicate "these are the
> > > core applications we recommend for basic functionality expected from a
> > > desktop computer for <category>". 

Reality is that every distro makes his own mind what to put in their meta packages. All resulting binaries end up in separete packages. So you can reach the same goal by making a techbase page describing what apps you think are best. Reality again is that users install the apps that they need, I don't think many exclusively rely on meta packages. I mean, if you are bored, you might install kde-games meta packages, but if you want to do translations, you install lokalise, not the whole of kdesdk.

> > And until there are really "hundred of apps" in extragear I cannot follow
> > you. Especially for a category as broad as Utility.
> yes, there are "only" a little under 50 apps in there right now. it'd be great 
> to see it grow a lot bigger .... there are many KDE applications out there 
> that would be great to bring in closer to the rest of the "KDE Universe", but 
> to do that we need to have a system that's ready for such a thing.

You have to rethink this bit in the current time. In the past one of the key advantages was having a central svn repository. With git around the corner and hosters like gitorious and github, the need for this hosting within KDE is gone. Mail notification, user management, etc, all there (or will be soon).
You need to wonder why any project would like to join our project. Maybe translators, but i bet that it is not a key reason to switch. 

So yes, I'm a fan of moving stuff to the main modules, or moving the apps out of the main module all to extragear, except for the bits in libs and base of course.

> i really don't want to see plasma components spread all over our svn unless 
> they are really tightly bound to a given application (such as some of the kde 
> edu ones) as it would make it far more difficult to manage them for the plasma 
> team and from the user perspective they are all "just widgets".

I think the opposite. You will soon have a hundreds of widgets and deviding them in categories makes all sense in the world. And hey, we have the categories already...

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