what packages do we want distros to ship ?

Dan Meltzer parallelgrapefruit at gmail.com
Thu Dec 25 15:18:43 GMT 2008

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Mark Kretschmann <kretschmann at kde.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Alexander Neundorf <neundorf at kde.org> wrote:
>> since I'm doing the build stuff I'm getting in contact with packagers from
>> distributions and their wishes.
>> One thing which I don't know what the current state is, is what type of KDE
>> packages do we want distributions to ship ?
>> We have the "modules" kdelibs, kdebase, kdepim etc. These are quite
>> corse-grained.
>> E.g. Slackware ships them that way, so you get  a package kdebase.tar.gz etc.#
>> E.g. Gentoo is on the other end, they modify the buildsystem so that they can
>> ship everything as a single package. E.g they'd like to have a separate
>> package for each library in kdebase/workspace/.
>> Now, we could say, it's up to them, we don't care.
>> But that wouldn't be good. It would be better if we support what we want them
>> to ship, so they have to do less (or no) modifications and we know what will
>> be shipped to our users.
>> Also making more fine-grained packages than whole-module-one-package can be
>> made easier for them if we consider this when writing the CMakeLists.txt.
>> (e.g. by keeping in mind that CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR and CMAKE_BINARY_DIR are
>> different when building a whole module instead of independent, by making
>> configure tests local to the application, etc.).
>> So, what do we expect what will be shipped ?
>> My guess is that it's somewhere in between, e.g. whole kdelibs, whole
>> kdepimlibs, whole kdebase/workspace libs, but separate e.g. kontact, kate,
>> kwin, kmail etc.
> With Amarok 2 we've made it so that you can (in fact you must!) build
> it from the extragear/multimedia/amarok directory, as opposed to
> building it from the extragear/multimedia directory.

Not must, can.

Amarok still builds from multimedia/
> We figured that extragear applications are really separate entities
> and most people aren't interested in building the whole shebang, when
> they really just want one specific app.
> --
> Mark Kretschmann
> Amarok Developer
> www.kde.org - amarok.kde.org

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