libkdeprint

[Thomas Zander]

On Tuesday 16 October 2007 11:08:43 Pino Toscano wrote:
> Alle martedì 16 ottobre 2007, Thomas Zander ha scritto:
> > On Tuesday 16 October 2007 01:53:55 Pino Toscano wrote:
> > > > Commnents/yes/no?
> > >
> > > From okular's point of view, no.
> >
> > Simply objecting without giving alternate solutions doesn't help the open
> > discussion. What do you have in mind as an alternate solution?
>
> Fixing kdelibs?
> (That, from my point of view, is more or less working, as I can print
> preview and print to file, at least.)

Unfortunately the requirements have risen a bit over the years; shuffling 
postscript files around like kdeprint does is no longer enough. As I 
explained a couple of times before.
So while it may be enough for you, it will not be enough for the majority of 
our users/apps.
But I fear I'm repeating myself not because I'm not being clear, but because 
you don't want to hear what I have to say.  What I have to say is simple; the 
KDEPrint solution (either the one in HEAD as well as the one in KDE3) is not 
good enough anymore and has to be replaced with something else.  (read my 
various past emails on this topic for why).
The best solution for this problem is QPrinter.

> > In other words; Do you have a suggestion on how to solve the HUGE problem
> > that we have a LOT of code rotting on KDELibs that we have to maintain BC
> > for the next couple of years?
>
> Then it's better to create HUGE regressions?

A bit more constructive answer please. :)

Suggesting that unnamed people (other then you) maintain a huge piece of code 
which can not possibly work on Windows or Mac is not a solution.  Sorry, I 
require you to come up with another solution if you want to keep complaining 
about this.

> Sorry, but the objections to the QPrinter solution were raised before (for
> example by Albert), but they were happily rejected.
> How can I being "costructive" this way, when any other solution than
> QPrinter was simply rejected?

Because objections without plausible alternative solutions does not mean we 
just abandon quite good solutions. Only when you work with us to create a 
*better* solution for the huge problem of being able to print on WIndows/Mac 
or using apps like KWord that want to output PDF on all platforms.
So please do work with us to such a solution.

That's what I mean with being constructive.  If you can't do that, I'm afraid 
you will indeed be feeling ignored. Yes.

I hope we can look forward to you working with us to solve these problems, as 
I surely aim to make sure Okular has great printing in KDE4. And I assume you 
want the same.
-- 
Thomas Zander
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