[KDE4] KNotification

[Olivier Goffart]

Le Samedi 17 Septembre 2005 23:24, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :

> > say that there will be a daemon that will display popups.
> > And the notification only cover popups.
>
> one could:
>
> 	 - extend the spec. if the people maintaining it now bitch about it, just
> fork the spec. i'm really tired of dealing with these inneficiencies on
> FD.o (i've already bumped into the notification spec people twice) and
> believe that when people throw stop energy our way we need to just route
> around it. the best spec will win.


If you have followed the discussion about that in kdg at fd.o , or read archive,  
you will see that they are *strongly* against extending the spec to anything 
else than popup.

> 	- provide a daemon that supersets the FD.o-submtited spec and, when an app
> is run in GNOME using the GNOME daemon, the apps is just less featureful.
> this will cause people to either not use the KDE app, use KDE instead or
> use the KDE daemon in GNOME.

I think that many of us agree that making our kde apps working outside of the 
"K Environment" is an important thing (look discussion about file dialog)
but that should not reduce the feature of that app anyway.

> one thought: what happens to notifications when the hosting app goes modal?
> do they as well lock up? probably, and that's not a good thing. (c.f. the
> system tray and the bug reports around "when Foo App shows a modal dialog
> box i can't access the Foo system tray icon anymore")

In the current Kopete implementation, without daemon, there is the problem.
But if we use a daemon for popup, I guess the problem will not be there.

> is it possible at all to do the notifications out-of-process of the
> notifying app given the feature set you want? if so, that would actually be
> preferable as it would allow multiple and varied presentations within
> plasma. for the workspace, out of process is ungood.

I don't understand this.



Another possibility is to have two daemon:
 the existing KNotify +  a new for popup  (or plasma can do this ?)

Because i encounter another big problem:  how do i play sound from kdeui ? do 
i link with the future kdemm ?  or will this require anyway a daemon just to 
play sounds ?

(and KNotification  must be in kdeui because some kdeui class use it)


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