[PATCH] Konqueror about

Kenneth Wimer wimer at suse.de
Fri Jul 8 00:14:39 BST 2005

* James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj at acm.org> [Jul 07. 2005 09:35]:
> David Johnson wrote:
> >On Wednesday 06 July 2005 01:04 pm, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> >
> >
> >>So I don't see anything simple about explaining that it is different
> >>in UNIX and that the user should store their personal data files in
> >>the same folder as a lot of configuration stuff.
> >
> >
> >Mac OSX has a home directory, and I don't see any Mac users finding it 
> >difficult, so why would KDE users?
> Do OS/X users actually store their personal files *in* the HOME directory?

Yes, until they have time to sort things out, and even then there is a
lot that ends up in their Home. Home is seen as the default place to save
things when you either don't have the clue or the time to figure out
where else to save things, if not the default place to save all docs
when you have enough different types which do fall easily into
categories such as "documents" or "pictures" - I doubt that many
developers save all of their source code under "documents" although
perhaps I am wrong?

> >Having separate "Documents", "Music", "Pictures", etc, directories makes 
> >sense, but trying to spare the user from the psychic pain of a "Home" 
> >directory is nonsense. 
> We seem to have gotten off on two tracks.  There is the question of how 
> I have my system set up and what the patch does.
> If you think that it is better to have the directories "Documents", 
> "Music", "Pictures", etc. subdirectories of HOME rather than to have 
> them subdirectories of the directory "Files" which is a subdirectory of 
> the HOME directory, you may offer your arguments in support of this. 
> But, that has nothing to do with the patch.
> This isn't about "psychic pain", it is about convenience.  It is simply 
> more convenient to look for "Your personal files" in a directory that 
> doesn't contain a bunch of other stuff.  Likewise, if you have "Your 
> personal files" divided up in to subdirectories, it is more convenient 
> to look for those directories in a directory that doesn't contain a 
> bunch of other stuff.  If you can offer reasons why it is better in 
> either case to have the personal files or the directories in a directory 
> that also contains a lot of unrelated stuff, please state them.
> Note, that other OS users manage to do it is not a reason that it is 
> _better_ to do it that way.  If fact, it is not a reason.
> >
> >>Remember, we are talking about trying to improve usability for new
> >>users. 
> >
> >And what about usability for intermediate, experienced and advanced 
> >users?
> Aren't these users able to configure their system.  I suppose that I am 
> an advanced user and I didn't find it convenient to click on the link 
> which is described as: "Your personal files" and not have it take me to 
> the folder with my "personal files".  Nothing about being an 
> intermediate, experienced, or advanced user that makes you want to have 
> a link take you to the wrong directory, is there?  Yes, more advanced 
> users can put up with such problems better than newbies, but I don't see 
> them wanting things to not work correctly.
> -- 

Kenneth Wimer
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