Fwd: Re: accessibility misfeatures

[Bill Haneman]

Scott/All:

Using "control" isn't really much better - basically you should not send 
any modifier keys in this way, because doing so actually changes the 
modifier state of the system for users who use 'Sticky Keys', so it's 
still an accessibility conflict.

I believe there is a standard under discussion for keeping screensavers 
from kicking in, perhaps being discussed in freedesktop.org - I am not 
sure offhand.  But certainly using modifier keys is troublesome.

Perhaps sending a modifier which isn't recognized by StickyKeys or 
normally used by the system - perhaps Scroll Lock (twice, just in case 
toggling has an effect) would be better?

- Bill

Scott Wheeler wrote:

>Alright -- doing the only sensible thing and forwarding this on to the devel 
>lists of those projects.
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>Guys -- it seems that both MPlayer and Xine use the shift key events to keep 
>the screen saver from kicking in, though as is mentioned below, pressing the 
>shift key 5 times in a row is an X-defined accessibility shortcut, so there's 
>a conflict...
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>Would it be possible to use another key, say control or something for the same 
>purposes in the media players?
>
>-Scott
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>----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
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>Subject: Re: accessibility misfeatures
>Date: Sunday 09 January 2005 12:21
>From: Olaf Schmidt <ojschmidt at kde.org>
>To: kde-core-devel at kde.org
>Cc: kde-accessibility at kde.org
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>[Scott Wheeler, Samstag, 8. Januar 2005 19:57]
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>>On Saturday 08 January 2005 16:02, Gunnar Schmi Dt wrote:
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>>>Sticky Keys: Usefull if you cannot press two keys simultaneously.
>>>Basicly the modifier keys work like lock keys. (Keyboard gesture:
>>>press Shift 5 consecutive times)
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>>MPlayer and Xine, to prevent the screensaver from being activated, send
>>a shift key press every few seconds.
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>>Would it perhaps be possible to use a different key?
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>The key gesture is defined by X, not be KDE, so we cannot change it
>easily. By using the shift key, MPlayer and Xine are broken for every X
>user that has these gestures activated. This includes GNOME users, so the
>only sensible way is to fix the applications.
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>I am cc'ing kde-accessibility, as this is the proper list for
>accessibility topics.
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>Olaf
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