default resolution of kde?

[Frans Englich]

(following up this thread to complement)

On Thursday 30 December 2004 22:23, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I remember that we decided that the default resolution for KDE should be
> 800x600. I also see that many applications do not enforce this.
>
> I opened my 1024x768 display on konqueror's config, and I see that the tab
> "Web beheaviour' does not fit on my display.
>
> People, please split that tab, or put more options into some advanced
> button or something.

Yes, it's a general problem in KDE, and an important one too. That a 
configuration dialog for our most central program -- the web browser -- 
doesn't fit in a 1024x768 display is alarming.

While this may be seen as a technical issue, I think it is important to 
ask /why/ KDE has this general problem, and what have caused it. In other 
words; what is it we masquerade in "flexibility" and "powerfulness"? We 
should think twice -- not that this case is the only reason -- before 
discarding ideas as belonging to those Windows losers and gnomers.

What Max Howell in this thread suggests as a solution -- to wrap dialogs in 
QScrollView --  /was/ implemented in KCMultiDialog, but was later on disabled 
by Aaron.

Of course, the unrelated layout bugs shouldn't be confused with the solution.

I think the solution is good because 1) it makes HIG-violating dialogs, that 
is, the problem, visible and notable to developers, which a list easily 
misses; 2) it enforces HIG compliance centrally(the KDE brand); 3) it makes 
dialogs _bearable_ for users if developers decides to not fix their dialogs. 
Good web pages doesn't have scroll bars; it's almost possible to apply the 
same thinking of whether a web browser should have scroll bars, to our 
configuration dialogs.

In KDE 4 we can attempt to enable it again, depending on how a future 
kde-core-devel thread develops. 

Another possibility is to put the QScrollView in kdialogbase, such that it 
applies to all dialogs, not just configuration dialogs. This would be 
correct, but it makes me hesitate because I think the change would be quite 
invasive, _many_ dialogs are too large, and the result could easily be a 
rejection from the KDE community. But the end result would be nice. It's 
perhaps possible with a wide support("ok everyone, let's deal with the 
issue") or that it was first in KCMultiDialog for some time and then moved to 
KDialogBase.

But I think it's good; when designing a dialog and when +- a widget decides 
whether a scroll bar is activated, it makes people think.


Cheers,

		Frans