[kde-artists] default artwork for 3.5

[Danny Allen]

Janet,
While it is true that a discussion took place regarding artwork for 3.5, 
several important, show-stopping objections (regarding the scale of the 
effort, timescale, and even whether the changes were even neccessary) were 
simply glossed over.

In the later IRC session, we had a lengthy debate, in which we thought we had 
come to an agreement as to the sane course of action. However, the new 
wallpapers which you have presented via. the polls, whilst technically good, 
still disregard what we agreed upon (that the wave should not change 
substantially - which was generally kept to - but more importantly that the 
colours should stay with the 3.4 palette - which seems to have gone out the 
window!)

So, that is why Ken, myself, and maybe others are annoyed at the current 
state. When the agreed course of action, discussed at length is broken, there 
does not seem to be any other way to protest.

Danny


On Wednesday 31 August 2005 07:32, Janet Theobroma wrote:
> Hello all,
> We would like the core-developers insight on a situation we are having in
> the KDE-artists community. It started with a request on the KDE-Artists
> mailing list for the default wallpaper for 3.5. I went the the #kde-artists
> IRC channel and asked if there was time to make new artwork for 3.5. I was
> told "absolutely".  So we started a Kollaboration on the artists site. The
> first thing we did was to plan an IRC meeting at #kde-artists to decide
> what direction we wanted to go. We announced this meeting on the website,
> blogged about it and sent an email to all the members of KDE-artists.org.
> At the meeting we decided to change the colors a bit on the Start pages and
> use a stylized version of the wave graphic that is on the current Konqi
> start pages as a unifying element for all the new artwork. We decided to
> start with the new wallpaper then move onto the splash screen and Start
> pages. I posted the decisions the group made on the artist site and we got
> a huge response...we narrowed it down and then had a vote.
>
> I submitted the top two from the polls to the kde-artists mailing list to
> get their comments and approval . To which Ken replied:
> "What in the hell is going on? We discussed this stuff- the wave should not
> change for 3.5 IT IS USED IN OTHER PLACES AS WELL; SO WE CANNOT CHANGE IT
> IN ONE PLACE WITHOUT CHANGING IT EVERYWHERE!!!!!"
>
> Then today Ken set the channel topic on the #kde-artists' public IRC
> channel to: "who in the hell said to change the wave for 3.5!!!!!" and he
> went on to say...
>      "[03:36] * kwwii is extremely upset about this crap
>       [03:36] <kwwii> there is no point in having the kde-artists website
> if all it does is make things worse!!!!!"
>
> The new KDE-Artists.org website has provided artists in the KDE community
> with a place to contribute their artwork to the applications that they
> love. Not to mention that the developers now have a means to connect with a
> much larger group of artists to get the artwork they need.  Despite any
> disparaging remarks we have followed through on what we proposed and
> provided exactly what was promised.
>
> See http://kde-artists.org/files/wave/ to view examples of the graphics
> that we will be referring to below.
>
> The weird thing is that the wave is the same shape...it is just stylized.
> Another weird thing is that Ken was the one who requested completely new
> Start pages on the artists site. I think we went about this the right
> way...we announced a meeting, had a vote etc etc. At one point Ken said
> that he agreed with what we were doing (excepts from the IRC meetings:
> http://kde-artists.org/files/wave/excerpt.txt.tar.gz).
>
> We believe that there is no reason left why one of these cannot be the
> default wallpaper in KDE 3.5 unless it is an issue of individual control.
> If we were trying to be renegades we would have just committed the
> wallpapers but we didn't. We submitted them to the mailing list where we
> could discuss them but instead we were attacked.
>
> To summarize: The wave used in the creation of the proposed default
> wallpaper is the same shape as the wave in the Konqi start page. We have
> adjusted and then readjusted the approach to the artwork to meet the
> timeline for the features list as requested by physos. We have submitted
> the artwork to the kde-artists mailing list before submitting the final
> wallpaper to svn. We are not taking the lone cowboy approach and forcing
> unwanted changes on anyone nor has this been developed in secret.
>
> These are the logs from two public IRC meetings. One that was scheduled to
> address what we were looking for in the default artwork for KDE 3.5.
> Another to discuss a new timeline and then redefine the elements for the
> default artwork so that screenshots could be included in the feature guide.
> http://kde-artists.org/files/wave/full_logs.tar.gz
>
> Click here to read the threads about the default artwork on
> KDE-Artists.org:
> http://kde-artists.org/main/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,48/expv,0/board
>,43.0
>
> So we have two questions:
> What should we do about the new artwork for 3.5 but more importantly how
> should decisions be made about the default artwork for KDE in the future?
> We have an ever growing resource of artists in our community but we need
> clear guidelines if we are going to more forward in a positive direction.
>
> Thank you for your time,
> The Kde-Artists.org web team
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