Nine things KDE should learn from Mac OS X
amantia at freemail.hu
Tue Aug 9 11:59:34 BST 2005
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 13:22, Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> Before I respond... Wow, a well though out reply! Let me buy you a
> beer for that alone rather then a quick emotional reaction. koodos.
> Yes I understand that the application can do a lot. In fact that is
> why I launched it to try it out. I do all my web development at the
> console so I wanted to see if Quanta could help out. But as someone
> who had never used Quanta I was very confused. Maybe Quanta just is
> too powerfull and a new user has to read the manual before it can be
Well, what I read from your blog is that you found the UI cluttered, but
it wasn't clear that it is not understandable and you cannot use it
unless you read the manual.
> I personally think that by _default_ applications should be
> simple for new users to learn (and to grow my/your userbase). As they
> explore the application it is forgiving.
I agree with you, but first we need to know what is not easy to
understand and learn for the user.
> Yup, heard the same thing here, lots of praise all around. That is
> why I was so disappointed that I couldn't figure out how to do
Can you be more exact (it's ok if you post your remarks on
quanta at kde.org or quanta-devel at kde.org, so we don't pollute
> > As for the rest, the sidebars can be collapsed and take little
> > space. The sidebar on the left handles projects, something
> > essential for managing uploads of a web site as well as
> > supplemental features like templates, a structural document view
> > and a script repository.
> Why is "Document Structure" on the left then? Shouldn't it be on the
> right with "Attribute Editor"?
Well, good question, they most probably have something in common. ;-)
> And shouldn't Documentation really be
> called "Reference" and be on the left?
Before you nobody suggested this and nobody thought about it. Might be a
good idea to rename it since it does not contain Quanta's
The position of the tree is on right because...KDevelop has there as
well. And to not have 2 columns of toolviews on the left.
> Sorry, but I just don't buy it. What you are saying is that Quanta
> is only good for those who are building huge sites with twenty people
> working on them and everyone gets several days of training and the
> manager customizes everyones application....
No, it's good for others as well. At least from the feedback we
> Or for a completely new idea how about rather then having one large
> window that tries to do everything what about breaking it up into two
> windows. The main window is the project management, and you have a
> separate editor window for the currently opened files. The editor
> window could even look like Qt's designer with all the tags on the
> left (rather then 6 tabs of toolbars) and the Document Structure and
> Attribute Editor on the right.
I don't like this approach. But the future KMDI should allow you to
undock the toolviews (the Project toolview as well) and that will
become a separate window. Right now this is not possible (or not good)
in IDEAl mode, but it work in tab paged mode.
Quanta Plus developer - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org
K Desktop Environment - http://www.kde.org
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