Incidents, once in a while

Christian Loose christian.loose at
Wed Sep 1 22:37:57 BST 2004

On Wednesday 01 September 2004 23:14, Carlos Leonhard Woelz wrote:
> Not sure this is a core devel issue, but since I replied to
> kde-usability, I will reply here as well.
> I should have replied to the original message, but here goes my
> (unsolicited) my comment on this situation:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:13:49 +0000, "Frans Englich"
> <frans.englich at> said:
> > Aaron replied:
> > "i think that by simply going ahead and pretending to represent KDE's
> > usability processes, including writing articles that are, quite frankly,
> > embarrassing to those involved in the project is not useful and in fact
> > hurts
> > our efforts. i have no plans for KUA at this point due to this and due to
> > your limited knowledge in the field that is directly reflected by your
> > solo
> > efforts in this regard. we have several usability professionals that are
> > getting involved in KDE usability and KUA does nothing to enable this
> > process."[6]
> This comment is hardly constructive. Moreover: it is a flamewar starter.
> Sometimes we have to build bridges to bring people in, instead of
> repelling motivated people. The "usability is for the pros" argument is
> not 100% true: there are tons of usability tasks that are a function of
> work more than experience (I am *not* claiming anyone is saying this, it
> is preemtive argument :p ). Therefore, finding common ground between
> motivated developers, independent of each other (perceived)
> qualifications, is the obvious thing to do.

I second this.

Saying KUA is crap a month after the first proposal 
( and several 
status updates ( / isn't a good 
constructive style. Especially when one missed the chance to critize the work 
early and even offered to write an KUA article 


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