Kopete in kdenetwork

[Chris Lee]

Uh...

What use is an instant messenger-type application if you can't talk to 
anyone on any network?

If jabber is out because libpsi isn't stable enough, and AIM/Yahoo/MSN 
are all out because of the fact that their parents are corporate 
entities, what protocols will Kopete ship with? What use will it be to 
any end-user when they can't use it because there are no plugins for it 
to allow them to chat with anyone?

Neil, we might as well not support SVG or GIF or Flash in KDE either 
because they all have corporate entities too, by your logic.

-clee

On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 06:01  AM, Neil Stevens wrote:

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> On Saturday February 22, 2003 04:47, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
>> El Saturday 22 February 2003 09:44, Neil Stevens escribió:
>>> Should KDE include anything that is tied to a proprietary protocol?
>>> If not, Kopete plugins like OSCAR should remain in kdenonbeta.
>>> Should KDE include anything is tied to a proprietary service (open
>>> protocol or not)?  If not, Kit should be moved out, and several 
>>> Kopete
>>> plugins should remain in kdenonbeta.
>>
>> uhm... I think KDE should focuse in end-user, and end user wants to 
>> chat
>> in MSN, icq, AOL, and they don't care religious issues. As long the
>> plugins are compatible in terms of code license I see no problems.
>
> Some of us don't think promoting AOL, Microsoft, or Yahoo services 
> exactly
> help the end-user.
>
>>> libpsi is nowhere near ready for a KDE release yet, therefore the
>>> jabber plugin should stay in kdenonbeta or thereabouts.  It uses
>>> nothing in kdelibs, and even has its own SSL implementation.  Justin
>>> Karneges, Till Gerken, and I have been looking at ways to make it
>>> useful for KDE apps witout forking, but nothing has been produced 
>>> yet.
>>
>> libpsi is very stable, I don't know if you use Kopete jabber plugin, 
>> but
>> I use it daily, not feature complete but thats not part of KDE policy.
>> The KDE integration can be done slowly, but having it in KDE would
>> promote jabber usage more.
>
> The author disagrees with the state of libpsi.  Justin plans to remove 
> it
> from public CVS soon, to rename and rewrite a lot of it.
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