kde 3.1 -- make Keramik default?

[Alexander Kellett]

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 10:35:19PM +0200, Alexander Kellett wrote:
> And while i'm in the thread i'll post another "me too" to the whole
> keramik == default idea, though i've got a few little niggles most
> of which have been covered in the last few emails.

And now my niggles in a pictorial form:

   *** http://lypanov.shacknet.nu/content/code/kde/snapshot3.png

   1) This is probably a general moan at buttons with icons,
      the help icon looks strange as its not properly centered,
      (i.e the icon + text aren't centered as one object).

   2) The right hand darkness of the gradient for the icons is 
      slightly too dark (12%-ish) making the icons difficult 
      to make out perfectly.

   3) The corner should really be rounded if thats possible with
      kstyles currently, also the constrast between the edge and
      the "inside" color is slightly too high making the inside
      seem much flatter than it should.
      
      Another thing the menu "highlighting" (can't be seen here) 
      doesn't really look that impressive :(

   4) These two borders are different as they are not the same 
      size which isn't directly a problem but also they are not 
      resized but instead just cut off and they thus appear very
      different, which is bad of course :)

      Also, if you compare the left and right borders of the konsol
      you can see that the right is much more round that the left
      thus making it appear much more 3d and bubbly == cooler :)

   5) The top is too dark while the bottom is too gray, probably
      just an interaction problem between the graphics and the 
      hsv 're'-colouring code (assuming thats the way the colour 
      schemes work for keramik). The apparent shape of the button
      therefore appears slightly elevated at the top when compared
      to the others. And in any case this appearence doesn't really
      depict "current button selection" to me :(

   6) This is also discoloured. I guess that some slight hue adjustments
      to the keramik graphics will sort this out.

   7) The kicker should automatically get one of the following graphics
      as its background when using the keramik theme.

         http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1439

      Also imo some nice new backgrounds XP's default one for example
      really does suit the Luna look - a bad name compared to keramik btw :)

Another image (and not a keramik problem):

   *** http://lypanov.shacknet.nu/content/code/kde/snapshot4.png

   This is quite funny i'll guess its a slight bug with the icon
   loading/resizing code, but yet, it does look very sweet! 
   (though i think even nicer would be to have all submenus as 
    small icons and all actual items as large icons).

There was a kicker menu look rewrite talked about, any news 
on that font?

Oh, another points I really can't fault the keramik kwin 
decoration which looks truly quite amazing!.

One problem with all this is that I assume that the keramik
style should - like the current highcolor theme - work with 
different color schemes.

Sorry if the points offend at all, and very sorry for making
so many points, i'm just attempting to point out any of the 
possible "flaws" from my (a hopeful keramik user) point of view.

I really do hope all this was useful, in general I hate to 
criticise other peoples work, and sadly my own too :)

thanks,
Alex "wishing he wasn't so useless with a mouse" Kellett