Style guide decision needed (was: [Kopete-devel] Bug#40938: behaviour change request)

[Antonio Larrosa Jiménez]

El Sunday 28 April 2002 02:31, Carsten Pfeiffer escribió:
> On Sunday 28 April 2002 02:21, Antonio Larrosa Jiménez wrote:
> > Well, I would find it inconsistent if "in the same application" (read,
> > kopete), sometimes I have to use Enter to send some text to a friend
> > and
>
> Yes, that's what I meant with "IM and IRC might not go well together [in
> one application]. Maybe the irc-plugin should simply provide a single
> lineedit?

That's what it does, but I think that IM and IRC should all provide 
lineedits or multilineedits, but not depending on the protocol (perhaps by 
configuring it globally as I said in the other mail)

>
> I mean, not being able to use Return to produce a newline in a
> multilineedit will cause even more confusion than not being able to send

You said it right "not being able to use Return ... in a _multilineedit_"
what I am proposing is using "single" lineedits everywhere (at least, by 
default), to avoid confusion.

> it with Return, no? IMHO the consistency with multiline editor widgets
> is more important than being able to close a dialog with Return.
> Actually, if there is no default button in the dialog, the user should
> notice that Return wouldn't activate the action, right?

Sure. The user will expect that Return submit what he wrote, and of course, 
"he'll note that it doesn't activate the 'submit' action". But that's like 
saying that we shouldn't care because the user will note that the 
application doesn't work as he expected.

Afaik, nobody submits multiple lines at once (even if it's considered 
cool), everyone submits multiple lines by separate, and as that's the 
common case, that's what we should optimize for.

>
> > > I figured it out pretty quickly. No program could be that crappy,
> > > forcing you to grab the mouse and hit that darn Send-button to
> > > finish every message :-]
> >
> > That's said by the person who claimed that users won't use the delete
> > key (or was it "backspace"?) because they don't know what it does or
> > don't know it exists :-) And do you think they'll find Ctrl-Return?
> > ;-)
>
> Heh, touché :) But I never said, people would find, I just said, that

:-)

> _I_ found it pretty quickly (in licq btw, when I first used it). And
> then I told my friend using ICQ 2001 on Windows about that shortcut ;)
>

Will you tell everyone ? Tell them about the delete key while doing so 
please ;-)

Greetings,

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Antonio Larrosa Jimenez
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