RFC: Retiring inactive mailing lists

[Christoph Cullmann]

Hi,



On Monday, September 15th, 2025 at 20:42, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 4:14 AM Christoph Cullmann <christoph at cullmann.io> wrote:
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> > 

> > Hi,
> > 

> > https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/work_items/42
> > 

> > should now contain state of the lists we have.
> 

> 

> Thanks Christoph. The really sad part is people who have sent patches or otherwise have been interested haven't received replies, and in my mind that really justifies closure and redirection of those lists.
> 

> Does someone want to file some tickets and i'll then proceed with closing down the dead lists?
> (noting where needed if a list should be merged into another list)


I am not sure what the best process is.

I would assume to close all lists that not had any mail since the last 2023 'are you alive' ping is save.

That is close to 2 years.

I guess mailman allows to re-open closed lists if ever the need arises?

All other stuff needs in detail discussion I guess.

Is our mailing list mail server able to generate more graceful bounce mails that contain some generic contact info like

'head to kde.org/xyz...'

for people that try some non-existing address?

Greetings
Christoph


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> > We have plenty that seem really dead.
> > 

> > Greetings
> > Christoph
> 

> 

> Thanks,
> Ben
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> > 

> > 

> > 

> > On Sunday, September 14th, 2025 at 20:06, Christoph Cullmann <christoph at cullmann.io> wrote:
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > Hi,
> > >
> > 

> > > I created some issue to at first at all collect some info:
> > >
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> > > https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/issues/42
> > >
> > 

> > > Given the last real investigation what is dead was 2023 will take a new look at the archives.
> > >
> > 

> > > Greetings
> > > Christoph
> > >
> > 

> > >
> > 

> > >
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> > > On Sunday, September 14th, 2025 at 14:31, Nicolas Fella nicolas.fella at gmx.de wrote:
> > >
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> > > > Am 13.09.25 um 20:34 schrieb Christoph Cullmann:
> > >
> > 

> > > > > Hi,
> > >
> > 

> > > > > we have a mass of mailing lists around on
> > >
> > 

> > > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo
> > >
> > 

> > > > > and many of them are totally unused or just gather bug mails like:
> > >
> > 

> > > > > https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-multimedia/
> > >
> > 

> > > > > Even 'my' own kwrite-devel is close to unused and I moderate xxx times more spam
> > > > > than real mails.
> > >
> > 

> > > > > My proposal would be to close most of the inactive lists and (if at all needed)
> > > > > point people to our
> > >
> > 

> > > > > https://discuss.kde.org/
> > >
> > 

> > > > Makes sense to me.
> > >
> > 

> > > > If we do that we also need to make sure we clean up references to the
> > > > old lists, e.g. https://apps.kde.org/ark/ refers to the kde-utils-devel ML
> > >
> > 

> > > > Cheers
> > >
> > 

> > > > Nico
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