measuring software's embodied carbon; was: online meetup Wed. 20 Nov. 18h UTC | Green Coding Solutions: "Eco-CI" and "Powerletrics"

Wed Nov 20 14:06:18 GMT 2024

Thanks for weighing in, Albert! Anyone else?

On 19.11.24 10:16 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El divendres, 15 de novembre del 2024, a les 13:10:22 (Hora estàndard del
> Centre d’Europa), Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss va escriure:
>> Anyone have opinions on this? Good idea? Bad idea?
> 
> I think it's a reasonable idea, but who is going to do the work?

I understand that with sysadmin support Arne from Green Coding Solutions 
would help set up the tool according to KDE's requirements.

See here for KDE's requirements:

   https://invent.kde.org/graphics/okular/-/merge_requests/1030#note_995641

And Arne's reply:

   https://invent.kde.org/graphics/okular/-/merge_requests/1030#note_1031692

Perhaps we can discuss it at the meetup tonight.

Cheers,
Joseph

> Cheers,
>    Albert
> 
>>
>> On 13.11.24 12:33 PM, Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote:
>>> Hi! I'd like to ask the KDE community to give feedback on a possible eco
>>> initiative within KDE. The Open Source company Green Coding Solutions
>>> has a new tool called Eco-CI to estimate the carbon footprint of the CI/
>>> CD pipeline. Is there support for adopting this tool within the KDE
>>> community (e.g., for Okular, as proposed)?
>>>
>>> FYI if you are interested in talking with the developers directly, join
>>> the KDE Eco online meetup next week (see below) where Arne and Didi will
>>> be presenting.
>>>
>>> As I see it, benefits of integrating Eco-CI into the development
>>>
>>> pipeline include:
>>>    - Maximal transparency about the embodied carbon of a software
>>>
>>> releases in KDE.
>>>
>>>    - Opportunities for data-driven improvement.
>>>    - Quantifiable differences for any changes made to the development
>>>
>>> process.
>>>
>>>    - KDE will be a leader in providing data about the carbon footprint of
>>>
>>> our software development.
>>>
>>> Drawbacks could include:
>>>    - KDE may be the only organization providing such data and it could
>>>
>>> give negative impressions abut our environmental impact (to note: I
>>> don't think this is necessarily a good argument, but I can see it being
>>> one).
>>>
>>>    - Discouraging use of the CI/CD pipeline could negatively impact
>>>
>>> software quality.
>>>
>>> Other benefits? Drawbacks? Do you support the idea?
>>>
>>> More info can be found about Green Coding Solutions and the Eco-CI tool
>>> at this MR in the Okular repository: https://invent.kde.org/graphics/
>>> okular/-/merge_requests/1030
>>>
>>> """
>>> [Eco-CI] integrates into the GitLab CI/CD pipeline and estimates the
>>> energy and CO2 consumption of the pipeline by utilizing a Machine
>>> Learning model trained on real server energy data from SPECpower
>>>
>>> The tool creates awareness of the energy cost and carbon emissions of
>>> CI/CD pipelines and empowers developers to create action for more
>>> sustainability.
>>> """
>>>
>>> If you want to discuss with the Eco-CI developers directly, join us next
>>> Wednesday 20 November 19h CET (see below for details).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: online meetup Wed. 20 Nov. 18h UTC | Green Coding Solutions:
>>> "Eco-CI" and "Powerletrics"
>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 12:40:14 +0100
>>> From: Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss <joseph at kde.org>
>>> To: kde-eco-discuss at kde.org
>>>
>>> After a short three-month hiatus, the next KDE Eco online meetup will be
>>> Wednesday *20 November* 18-19h UTC! I am excited to announce that Green
>>>
>>> Coding Solutions will present two of their new measurement tools:
>>>    - "Eco-CI" to measure energy consumption of CI/CD pipeline
>>>    - "Powerletrics" Linux kernel extension for power usage estimations
>>>
>>> Eco-CI has been suggested for integration into the Okular's CI/CD
>>> pipeline. For discussion, see: https://invent.kde.org/graphics/okular/-/
>>> merge_requests/1030
>>>
>>> See below for more details.
>>>
>>> Minutes from past meetups can be found here: https://invent.kde.org/
>>> teams/eco/opt-green/-/tree/master/community-meetups
>>>
>>> _Overview_
>>>
>>> *When*: Wed. 20 November 18-19h UTC
>>>
>>> *Where*: https://meet.kde.org/b/jos-l59-2i1-9yt
>>>
>>> *Topic*: Green Coding Solutions tools "Eco-CI" (CI/CD pipeline) and
>>> "Powerletrics" (Linux kernel extension)
>>>
>>> *Pad*: Further ideas are collected at this pad, please add ideas of your
>>>
>>> own:
>>>          https://collaborate.kde.org/s/cactBt4frrfTjbW
>>>
>>> *Details*:
>>>
>>> Eco-CI [0] is an open source GitHub / GitLab Plugin that estimates the
>>> energy and carbon emissions of a CI/CD workload. It hooks into the
>>> pipeline and will print a summary directly in the logs or as a
>>> downloadable artifact. Arne, one of the core developers, will present
>>> the tool and show some numbers from repos, including their average
>>> emissions, to get a feel for the importance of the topic. A discussion
>>> of integrating Eco-CI into Okular's GitLab repository will follow the
>>> presentation.
>>>
>>> Powerletrics [1] is a kernel extension that brings per process power
>>> usage estimations to Linux. It is modelled after the MacOS tool
>>> powermetrics which developers can use to gain insights into their
>>> environmental impact of their code. With modern ICT infrastructure using
>>> more and more resources, it is important that there are easy tools for
>>> monitoring and optimisation available so that we don’t waste precious
>>> resources.
>>>
>>> [0] https://github.com/green-coding-solutions/eco-ci-energy-estimation
>>> [1] https://github.com/green-kernel/powerletrics
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