[discussion] archiving and retiring the Dot

[Albert Astals Cid]

El dilluns, 2 d’octubre de 2023, a les 16:46:41 (CEST), Joseph P. De Veaugh-
Geiss va escriure:
> Thank you @Johnny and @Kenny for the input, very helpful!
> 
> @Johnny see below for comments relevant also for your email.
> 
> tl;dr I have added some additional ideas to consider.
> 
> On 10/2/23 14:58, Kenny Duffus wrote:
> > On Monday, 2 October 2023 12:28:25 BST Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >> 
> >> at the recent Promo Sprint we addressed the topic of Promo blogging and
> >> the Dot. The topic was brought up in the context of other discussions
> >> about blogging at KDE (see [1]). One observation was that the
> >> communication needs the Dot addresses are being fulfilled elsewhere. For
> >> 
> >> instance:
> >>    * Software releases are posted to the announcements page:
> >> https://kde.org/announcements/
> >> 
> >>    * e.V. news is posted at the e.V. page: https://ev.kde.org/news/
> > 
> > I am unlikely to be the only one that doesn't regularly check those places
> 
> I would assume you are not the only one. Note, currently posts at the
> above sites are not on the Dot, but on Planet.
> 
> >>    * Many teams have their own blogs (https://eco.kde.org/blog/,
> >> 
> >> https://gcompris.net/news-en.html, etc.)
> >> 
> >>    * Akademy updates are posted at the Akademy page:
> >>    https://akademy.kde.org/
> > 
> > That is not correct, Akademy makes a huge use of the dot for sharing info
> > to the wider community
> > 
> > You can see this by looking at the articles on https://dot.kde.org/
> 
> Yes, true, and originally I had noted that we could consider adding a
> blog functionality to the Akademy site, but for some reason I removed it
> from the final draft.
> 
> I'll add: Johnny pointed out in another email that SoK/GSoK both make
> heavy use of the Dot as well.
> 
> >> Posts to the above blogs also appear on Planet KDE. Moreover, Promo
> >> announces all news related to the above topics on social media as well.
> >> 
> >> In this context, a radical idea came up: perhaps we can archive and
> >> retire the Dot altogether.
> >> 
> >> What does the commmunity think about this proposal?
> >> 
> >> Archiving and retiring the Dot will solve the problem of migrating it,
> >> as it does not get migrated at all, just archived. It helps followers of
> >> KDE news discriminate more easily between what they want to read about
> >> and what not. And for followers who want to read everything there's
> >> always the Planet.
> >> 
> >> Additionally, retiring the Dot would help streamline our communication
> >> and the work that goes into maintaining it, also in terms of
> >> infrastructure. Any blog posts outside of the above topics but related
> >> to Promo could be published on the personal sites of the Promo team
> >> (perhaps hosted at the revised blogs.kde.org site [1]) and aggregated on
> >> Planet.
> >> 
> >> What does the community think of this idea? Do you support it? Oppose it?
> > 
> > I think its a terrible idea
> > 
> > KDE needs somewhere for official news, having that just mixed in with blog
> > posts would make them much harder to find and be drowned out in noise
> I see the case for having a dedicated official KDE news channel. And
> yes, the high number of posts on Planet may make it hard to find
> official news in the stream of contributor blog posts. That said, e.V.
> and software release news do not appear on the Dot, which are also
> official news.
> 
> So in its current form the Dot seems to be needed for SoK/GSoC, Akademy
> as well as those posts which do not have a dedicated blog where they can
> be published (e.g., the wallpaper contest, 25 years of KDE Free Qt
> Foundation).
> 
> Some alternative ideas to put out there, perhaps worth considering:
> 
>   * Option 1: have dedicated blogs for Akademy (e.g.,
> akademy.kde.org/blog/), outreach programs in KDE (e.g.,
> season.kde.org/blog/ for SoK), etc., aggregated on Planet.
> 
>   * Option 2: Akademy, SoK/GSoC, etc. posts could be published on the
> revised blogs.kde.org [1] under an individual account (e.g.,
> blogs.kde.org/jazeix/) or a team account (if that is possible, e.g.,
> blogs.kde.org/akademy/), aggregated on Planet. This would not require
> any additional infrastructure support.
> 
> The above ideas still do not solve the issue of having one site for
> official KDE news, so:
> 
>   * The Dot (perhaps renamed to something like kde.org/news/ for
> transparency) 

It's already linked from news.kde.org ;)

Cheers,
  Albert