Retirement of Drupal 7/8 sites (kdevelop, skrooge, blogs, behindkde)
aronkvh
aronkvh at gmail.com
Sun Jan 15 17:06:45 GMT 2023
Hey,
Just to intervene, I think another problem is that commiting changes to any
SSG though git and having to understand the stack can slow down promo's
work, especially when less experienced contributors would like to help in
adding content.
But I know working Wordpress can be a pita for everyone as well.
Best regards,
Áron
Shlomi Fish <shlomif at shlomifish.org> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. jan. 15., V
15:09):
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:21:50 +0100
> Paul Brown <paul.brown at kde.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, 15 January 2023 08:04:18 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > For some time now it has been known to us that the upgrade path from
> one
> > > given Drupal major version to the next is usually a very difficult road
> > > with lots of breakage involved.
> > > The conversion from Drupal 7 or 8 to Drupal 9 is no different in this
> > > regard - basically being a content export and then reimport.
> > >
> > > Due to the level of disruption and risk of breakage involved this isn't
> > > something done lightly but with the end of support for Drupal 8 and the
> > > incoming end of support for Drupal 7 we need to take action on this
> sooner
> > > rather later.
> > >
> > > At this time I'm only focusing on the smaller sites, so
> akademy.kde.org (in
> > > the process of moving to Hugo) and dot.kde.org (to be figured out)
> are out
> > > of scope for this email.
> > >
> > > We currently have the following sites running on Drupal 7/8:
> > > - dot.kde.org
> > > - akademy.kde.org
> > > - kdevelop.org
> > > - skrooge.org
> > > - behindkde.org
> > > - blogs.kde.org
> > >
> > > Given that promo is currently not making active use of the site, at
> this
> > > time my intention is to create a static archive of behindkde.org.
> > >
> > > In the case of KDevelop and Skrooge, it would make the most sense to
> > > convert them both into Hugo websites to minimise the long term
> maintenance
> > > cost and to make them part of the KDE family of sites.
> > > If anyone would like to work on this please contact me and I will
> arrange
> > > for a sanitized database copy to be made available to you.
> > >
> > > In the event that doesn't happen, converting them into static sites
> seems
> > > like the best path forward.
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > Drupal is, not to put too fine a point on it, terrible in every
> conceivable
> > way and we dread having to post to the dot. We welcome the transition
> away
> > from it.
> >
> > Promo has repeatedly asked for WordPress to supersede Drupal for the
> Dot, as
> > we have found creating content for a Hugo site (something we do at least
> > every 2 months for KDE Gear and Plasma announcements) difficult,
> inflexible,
> > slow, convoluted, and error-prone. So not much better than Drupal.
> >
> > As there are already several WordPress-based websites on the KDE
> > infrastructure, such as hattps://labplot.kde.org and
> https://kdenlive.org, we
> > think that having this is not too much to ask.
> >
>
> there are many other static site generators [
> https://staticsitegenerators.net/
> ], and I'm a fan of writing/maintaining custom ones using [eg.]
> http://template-toolkit.org/ , GNU make, and perl5 / py3 / npm / XSLT /
> etc.
>
> > Cheers
> >
> > Paul
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
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