General Infrastructure Maintainability: API and EBN

Philippe Cloutier chealer at
Sat Nov 9 23:42:10 GMT 2019

On 2019-11-09 13:40, Ben Cooksley wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 4:28 AM Elvis Angelaccio
> <elvis.angelaccio at> wrote:
>> On 09/11/19 01:33, Ben Cooksley wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>> Hi Ben
> Hi Elvis,
>>> Over the past number of years one of the tasks the Sysadmin team has
>>> worked on has been improving the overall maintainability of our
>>> systems, with a significant number of specialised cronjobs, exceptions
>>> and hidden linkages being eliminated.
>>> That is with one great exception: and
>>> Both of these are suffering from an extreme amount of digital bitrot
>>> and special casing and in general are now in a condition where I
>>> cannot say for certain whether it would be possible to replicate the
>>> setup on a new system without us experiencing some degree of breakage
>>> (some of which we may not discover until weeks/months afterwards).
>>> In addition, the current setup relies on an old-fashioned overnight
>>> reprocessing of all repositories, which is inefficient and resource
>>> expensive. A more modern approach would have the various projects api
>>> documentation generated on a delayed cycle from relevant branches as
>>> part of something like a CI job (but not part of the actual CI
>>> workflow itself).
>>> For this one, i'm not certain on the best path forward at this stage,
>>> however the current state of affairs cannot continue. We have tried
>>> over the past few years to find people to work on a replacement for
>>> the tooling involved, but alas we've yet to have success here.
>>> Thoughts anyone?
>> I'd say is too important to let it go. The EBN is less
>> important but still useful, I still see people pushing EBN-based fixes
>> once in a while.
>> Have we ever tried to use a GSoC project to modernize either of them? If
>> not, would it make sense to try next year?
> My only concern there would be whether the project is large enough in
> scope to justify the amount of time commitment a GSoC project normally
> spans.
>  From my understanding of the problem in question it quite probably
> does not meet those requirements.

Do you have an evaluation of the time necessary (and for a student)?

I imagine there would be lots of work on possible if a 
summer is too long for just that. Do we still have a list of 
issues (it seems issues moved away from and I can no longer 
find a list)?

>>> Regards,
>>> Ben
>> Cheers,
>> Elvis
> Cheers,
> Ben

Philippe Cloutier

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