Discourse
Hans "totte" Tovetjärn
totte at chakralinux.org
Tue Oct 30 08:37:27 GMT 2018
On 2018-10-30 08:38, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> On maandag 29 oktober 2018 19:31:54 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>> Discourse is modern forum and mailing list software. Examples at
>> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ or https://discourse.ubuntu.com/
>>
>> I went to a talk at the Embedded Linux Summit about how Fedora moved
>> to use
>> Discourse. Similar to the discussion of moving away from IRC we had
>> last
>> year I see people moving away from mailing lists and new contributors
>> not
>> wanting to get into them. Our KDE Forums also look quite old school.
>> In
>> Fedora they moved to Discourse and mailing lists and forums and saw a
>> marked increase in engagement.
>>
>> I think KDE should consider moving away from mailman and onto
>> Discourse and
>> at the same time forum.kde.org could move to this more modern
>> software. It
>> might also help cover Boud's use case of a user support method for
>> people
>> with queries before the report a bug.
>
> I don't think it's really comparable. Discourse might be a good
> alternative
> for mailing lists and forums, where people have discussions, but it
> doesn't
> look like a good alternative for a solution where people who have a
> problem,
> ask about it, and get a (semi-automatic) answer because it's been asked
> a
> hundred times before. It's the latter we really need :-)
If you need *both* discussion and Q&A-style support, there is this
plugin for Discourse:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-solved-accepted-answer-plugin/30155.
It doesn't make it as good as I find StackExchange or AskBot, but it is
something.
> But when it comes to mailing lists and forums...
>
> kimageshop at kde.org basically only gets used for announcements. All
> discussions
> happen on Phabricator or on IRC. Almost nobody with a question
> subscribes to
> the mailing list. The only thing that gets less used than the mailing
> list is
> the FAQ.
At a glance, the FAQ is looking good in terms of legibility:
https://docs.krita.org/en/KritaFAQ.html, how have you come to the
conclusion that it is so unpopular?
> We also do get user support questions on IRC, through the web
> interface, but
> it's clear that it confuses people horribly. They come, ask and leave,
> or
> don't know what to do once they're in the channel. Much as it pains me,
> for
> user support, IRC is the wrong tool. It's still find for project
> collaboration, though.
>
> As for the forum, it would be good to replace that with something more
> modern.
> We get a lot of traffic on the forums, People don't understand the
> layout of
> the forums, but because there's only an RSS feed, no email integration,
> I miss
> a lot of questions, and it's often very unclear what the current
> questions
> are. And the process of registering and logging in to the forum
> confuses
> people a lot, too.
Can you not subscribe to https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=136 to
get e-mail notifications? Is it the identity.kde.org feature that makes
registering difficult? Could this be alleviated by allowing for OAuth2?
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Best regards,
Hans "totte" Tovetjärn
totte at chakralinux.org
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