Telemetry Policy - Remaining Questions

Jaroslaw Staniek staniek at kde.org
Tue Oct 31 11:16:53 UTC 2017


On 31 October 2017 at 11:56, Sebastian Kügler <sebas at kde.org> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:39:38 AM CET Volker Krause wrote:
>> On Monday, 30 October 2017 21:24:59 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>> > El dilluns, 30 d’octubre de 2017, a les 9:56:52 CET, Volker Krause
>> > va
>> > > Let's try to finally get this finished
>> > >
>> > > The only remaining blocker is the unique identification used by
>> > > Kexi. There
>> > > was some discussion about this around QtWS, and it seemed like
>> > > there was consensus on having a strong policy on this topic would
>> > > be a good thing for
>> > > KDE, as opposed to e.g. turning this into just recommendations, or
>> > > opening
>> > > it up to unique identification. The suggested solution for Kexi
>> > > was to add
>> > > a special exception for it to the "These rules apply to all
>> > > products released by KDE." statement of the policy.
>>
>> > I'm confused, is that a workaround so that it doesn't apply to Kexi
>> > by implying Kexi isn't released by KDE?
>>
>> That sounds a bit convoluted to me, I was more thinking about making
>> it a direct exception to the policy, e.g. like this:
>>
>> "These rules apply to all products released by KDE (with the
>> exception of Kexi, which uses a telemetry system predating this
>> policy)."
>
> This will make the communication downright awful, as people will
> concentrate on the exception, not the rule.
>

I am sure energy would be concentrated on exception and
nonconstructive activities (from 3rd parties?) because... please read
below:

> I'm thinking along the lines of require code released by KDE to adopt
> the policy and even add it to the manifesto as requirement to make it
> easier to enforce. Kexi can always make it opt-in, and could be given
> some time to do so before we officially adopt and require this
> telemetry policy.
> Jaroslaw, would that work for you?

because... one thing is apparently missed even in this internal thread:
IIRC Kexi apps have never offered opt-out policy even for anonymous telemetry.
I blogged about that as soon as the feature landed [1].
Users pick level of involvement, zero by default, and telemetry is
presented as a way
for involvement in the project not as a threat.

[1] https://blogs.kde.org/2013/12/09/usage-stats

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