Added a resources page on community.ko

Jaroslaw Staniek staniek at kde.org
Tue Oct 10 20:25:01 UTC 2017


On 10 October 2017 at 21:48, Olivier Churlaud <olivier at churlaud.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Le lundi 9 octobre 2017, 21:56:42 CEST Jaroslaw Staniek a écrit :
>> On 9 October 2017 at 21:49, Olivier Churlaud <olivier at churlaud.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I don't know if it changes much, but it adds another layer in the page
>> > tree.>
>> >  I can imagine that someone could write an essay and link it there as
>> >
>> > well...
>>
>> In wiki terms it adds a subpage. Navigating will be clean as soon as
>> https://community.kde.org/Talks exists too (a home page for the
>> topic). This is usually just the right order of adding hierarchy pages.
>> Old-school wikis (also KDE's old wiki) used an all-global approach
>> with bad consequences for browsing experience.
>>
>
> You are right in theory. The issue with that is maintainance. Imagine that one
> day you want to reorganize : if you have too many layers it will be very
> difficult, that's why we chose to use one or two namespace (be it resources or
> Talk) and put eveything below, at the same level. The logic will be given by
> the path people will follow through their clicks.
>
> If Talks is better, then let's change that this way. To be more precise, I
> would do "Talks and Papers".
>
> Is it ok this way? if so, I'll change it next week on tuesday.

I am not asking for too many layers but more than zero and I am far
from theory. :)
Please excuse me sharing some practice that can be maybe of general value.

Picking right and short title / URL is the way to avoid later
modification. Moving and removing pages can be performed by admins.
A good start for a new simple page is to have it named in a generic
way and have with everything inside. You have Talks Resources but
shall notice we have no Talks page so this is the point to start. You
can add Resources section there and reorganize later if the page is
huge. This is also how wikimedia's projects work, then extract to
content to separate pages if it's already too big. Except they can
afford (staff) to use graphs (via Mediawiki Category) exclusively, not
just subpage trees.

The mediawiki's search engine favors page titles so if you use
Resources we will all be getting them in results also while looking
for Qt Resources (QRC), KDE PIM resources and so on. [1]

I am not sure you used the namespace anywhere in this context:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces or it is just
accidental. We've covered subpages, pages, sections and categories,
not namespaces which we IMHO should avoid.

Cheers.

[1] https://community.kde.org/index.php?search=Resources&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1

> Cheers,
> Olivier
>> > Le 8 oct. 2017 à 21:29, Jaroslaw Staniek <staniek at kde.org> a écrit :
>> >
>> > On Sunday, 8 October 2017, Olivier Churlaud <olivier at churlaud.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I wanted to share with you that I added a page for KDE talks and
>> >> resources
>> >> on
>> >> https://community.kde.org/Resources
>> >
>> > Thanks, to improve navigation how about Talks/Resources?
>> >
>> >> It is linked from the main page. It can be a good way to have here
>> >> resources
>> >> produced by the community. It's currently a unique page with bullet
>> >> points, we
>> >> can think about having more structure in the future if this feels needed.
>> >>
>> >> I attached there my impress template, based on the one Volker sent the
>> >> other
>> >> day. Attach yours as well if you want to share it.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Olivier
>> >
>> > --
>> > regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
>> >
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>
>



-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

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: A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
: and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
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: A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
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: A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
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