Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Martin Gräßlin]

Am 2016-12-03 12:47, schrieb Myriam Schweingruber:
> Hi Martin,
> 
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Am 2016-12-02 19:26, schrieb Ben Cooksley:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> It's that time of month again.
>>> If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please
>>> moderate it's queue.
>>> 20 kwin
>> 
>> It's all spam and I'm not logging in to delete spam. I go into the
>> list if there is a real mail which needs to be moderated. Then I
>> drop the spam.
>> 
>> It would be nice if we could get the spam mails not in the
>> moderation queue in the first place. Would mean much less work for
>> the moderators.
> 
> Well, deleting spam is also list moderator work in my book, so if you
> need help on that one, just ask. As said before, I can help since I do
> this anyway on several lists. I doubt there is a way to drop spam
> automatically and only keep legit mails in moderation queue with
> mailman.

The problem is not moderating the list. The problem is that I get a 
stupid useless mail every day I have to look at about pending 
moderations and a stupid mail I have to human look at when a spam mail 
gets in.

Note here: I get too many mails overall and the moderation queue mails 
are annoying as it's in 99.9 % useless junk which I have to manually 
look at.

Thanks for offering to help moderating the list, but that doesn't get my 
inbox cleaner. And that's what I care about. I don't care about how many 
spam mails are in the moderation queue, I care about the useless mail I 
get which I have to look at.

Given that I think a mail which is marked by spamassassin as spam and 
shown as spam in the moderation queue, should not be going into the 
moderation queue in the first place. If someone sends a mail to the kwin 
list which looks like spam to spamassassin it won't be something useful 
from development perspective.

Cheers
Martin