[kde-community] user stats for Neon
schwarzer at kde.org
Sat Apr 16 05:31:17 UTC 2016
Am 16.04.2016 01:46 schrieb Albert Vaca:
> What's the problem with pinging the Neon servers? Any system already
> way more than that when checking for updates, not to mention when you
> connect to a website, or even IRC.
> How can this ping be violating any privacy if we don't even need to
> the IP, just a unique ID? We can even generate the ID ourselves so it
> be matched with other sources. I don't see how this can have any impact
> privacy nor any other use than counting people using Neon.
> I don't understand this extremism and I'm sad to see it in our
> specially when other free projects like Firefox have been collecting
> more complex analytics (opt-out) for a while with a positive impact for
When I write software to be used all over the world, I not only need to
consider what is important to me, but what might be important to people
in any other form of society. After that I can decide what to actually
implement and what not. Calling concerns for privacy "extremism" does
not help anyone. Maybe many Chinese or Turkish people feel discompfort
if their application usage is tracked. And in my opinion, anyone should.
There is no name tag on those data, you say? Well, the name tag does not
matter anymore these days because with "big data" you can link anonymous
user profiles to other traces the user has left somewhere else and
*bang* you know the identity of the user. You can read about that in
A politician in Germany once got all the anonymous user data from his
cell phone company and handed it over to a newspaper in order to show
that data preservation or data retention actually means. The newspaper
visualized it and it turned out it was quite obvious that in such an
amount of data, there is no anonymity.
So, my opinion is that software should not track users more than
necessary for it to work properly. So of cource a GPS tracker needs to
track the user's position ... but a photo app does not, by default.
I see why companies feel a need to track users so they can streamline
their development and all. But Free Software? Anyway, if wee feel the
need to do it, I would vote for an opt-in solution shown in the first
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