[kde-community] user stats for Neon

Ingo Klöcker kloecker at kde.org
Thu Apr 14 23:39:08 BST 2016

On Thursday 14 April 2016 16:18:30 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 15:26:10 CEST Mirko Boehm - KDE wrote:
> > > On 14 Apr 2016, at 15:16, Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > relative metric of numbers of installs not absolute numbers.  So
> > > I added a machine-id to the URL it checks which is the unique
> > > value set at install time by systemd (/etc/machine-id) so now it
> > > has a good idea of being able to count the number of installs.
> > > 
> > > But KDE cares about privacy and it's in our Vision and I don't
> > > want to be accused of violating that.  But currently I can't see
> > > how this can violate users privacy any more than an IP address

Storing IP addresses is controversial. Some people consider it personal 
information. That's why Google Analytics has a setting to set the last 
number of the IP addresses to 0.

> > > can so I'm curious to hear what arguments might come up against
> > > this.
> > 
> > I believe that as long as we are transparent about it, this should
> > be fine. Maybe, just maybe, there could be a way to turn it of for
> > very privacy-sensitive users.
> Any potentially privacy-sensitive information transfer should be
> opt-in, not opt-out.
> I'd assume that the vast majority of users will allow it (given that
> it's not personally identifiable and they trust their distro), but
> opt-in puts you on the safe side.

IMO it must be opt-in. One of my main reason for using Free Software is 
my (probably naïve) hope that Free Software does not phone home at all. 
At least not, unless I have explicitly allowed it to do so.

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