[kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

Alexander Dymo alex at alexdymo.com
Mon Feb 8 19:12:51 UTC 2016

Martin, I think you either misunderstood, or misinterpreted what I and
AlexN wrote. We pointed many times that the focus is on free software
for mobile: hybrid laptop, tablet, phone, and any existing or future
personal computing device.

We're talking about "focused" KDE vision and mission. We're talking
about the goal, and general direction towards that goal. We're not
talking about exclusion or inclusion of projects into KDE. That's a
separate matter for consideration.

The "inclusive" vision naturally doesn't have this problem because its
attitude is: "let's have everybody on board". I can see how that's
more welcoming. But I fail to see how that avoids building yet another
tower of Babel.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 2:00:43 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 06, 2016 19:39:35 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
>> > On Samstag, 6. Februar 2016 16:47:31 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote:
>> > > Yes. I think the vision statement needs to be complemented by a mission
>> > > statement. But I think, before we tackle the mission statement, we
>> > > should
>> > > nail down the vision.
>> I think the main difference is that it mentions local applications/software
>> with GUIs explicitely (that's the "focus" ;-) ).
> I have followed the discussion so far and asked many questions to try to
> understand where the difference is and where the focus is. My interpretation
> of the gathered answer is that there is no "focus". The provided answers were
> contradicting and whenever one went on towards "so you want to have this not
> in KDE" it was "oh no, we want that". Server software is fine, cloud is fine.
> Everything seems to be included. I don't see where the focus is you want. I
> was not able to derive any rule on what would fit into KDE and what not. I was
> not able to see the focus.
> What I gathered from the replies looked like that anything coming from within
> KDE is fine. If I would start writing server software from within KDE it will
> be fine, but if I would start to work it outside it's not fine to get in. That's
> what I gathered from the replies. This worries me.
> From the replies I read I have a feeling that you haven't made up your mind
> yet what the "focus" means. It gives me a feeling that each project to join
> would be questioned in detail, whether it matches the perceived "focus". Not
> very welcoming.
> Cheers
> Martin
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