[kde-community] Should we allow non-KDE projects to participate in GSoC under KDE?

Jos Poortvliet jospoortvliet at gmail.com
Thu Feb 4 10:20:17 UTC 2016


On woensdag 3 februari 2016 22:28:34 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> I don't even remember what I thought the last couple of times, but I
> think it was something like this:
> 
> "if these are projects that we can likely bring under our umbrella, yes,
> we should, if that is not going to happen, then we shouldn't"
> 
> I cannot imagine I ever thought something different, but it's possible,
> and I remember someone telling me I was inconsistent, last year.

I think this rule makes sense. I think it won't be hard to get an agreement on 
our base principles from projects like Subsurface and Tupi (I mean the social 
side of things, not the tech part) and it would be a first step towards 
bringing them into the fold. Seems a good move to me.

In general, why don't we adopt a "yes unless" stance, rather than the 
opposite? If there's a good (not hypothetical) reason not to collaborate, fine 
- but otherwise, let's work with others.

> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016, Martin Klapetek wrote:
> > Hey,
> > so in the couple previous years we have collectively and
> > repeatedly rejected the idea of other projects, that are not
> > KDE projects by the Manifesto, to participate in KDE GSoC.
> > Namely we rejected Tupi and SubSurface solely because
> > "not a KDE project", GCompris became a KDE project and
> > then we let it participate.
> > 
> > Last year we got a non-KDE project in our GSoC despite the
> > previous years decisions, nobody really noticed and then there
> > was a huge discussion if that's ok or not, but by that time it was
> > a bit late.
> > 
> > So I'd like to have this cleared - does the community agree to
> > have non-KDE projects, those that do not follow the Manifesto,
> > participate in our GSoC this year and in the following years?
> > 
> > Imho this goes against the Manifesto as the projects gets to
> > "enjoy the benefits" without the complying with "commitments"
> > of the Manifesto. It's also less transparent overall (not able to
> > monitor progress as it's not on KDE infrastructure), can lead
> > to cheating and possibly kicking KDE out of GSoC in the worst
> > possible outcome.
> > 
> > On the other hand, every accepted project gets the mentoring
> > organization some extra money, which is always handy.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > --
> > Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer


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