[kde-community] retiring unmaintained modules?

Albert Astals Cid aacid at kde.org
Sat Jan 10 23:17:01 UTC 2015


El Diumenge, 11 de gener de 2015, a les 00:10:15, Jaroslaw Staniek va 
escriure:
> On 11 January 2015 at 00:00, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > El Dissabte, 10 de gener de 2015, a les 23:37:30, Rick Timmis va escriure:
> >> Hi
> >> 
> >> Text idea below
> >> 
> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 23:13:20 +0100, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >> > El Dissabte, 10 de gener de 2015, a les 22:56:06, Boudewijn Rempt va
> >> > 
> >> > escriure:
> >> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2015, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >> >> > Some of them like kword and koffice are already in unmaintained and
> >> >> > closed
> >> >> > for bugs, not much more we can do with them other than deleting them
> >> >> > which i'm not sure it's a good idea.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Close the bugs as "unmaintained"? There's no reason to keep bugs open
> >> 
> >> for
> >> 
> >> >> dead projects.
> >> > 
> >> > In an ideal world you'd have biliions of bug triagers that would go
> >> > through
> >> > all the open bugs and move the ones that still exist to calligra for
> >> > example
> >> > (meaning i think there's still some sense to keep them there)
> >> > 
> >> >> > Others like kftpgrabber may be either suggested for new people to
> >> 
> >> adopt
> >> 
> >> >> > them and if not moved to unmaintained.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I don't believe in that -- asking for maintainers never works. It's
> >> >> vanishingly rare that an unmaintained project gets a new lease of
> >> >> life,
> >> >> and it never happens if there's no maintainer around anymore to answer
> >> >> questions.
> >> > 
> >> > I don't believe in things you belieave and vice-versa ;)
> >> > 
> >> >> > I guess we should also be really careful, as you said some software
> >> 
> >> is
> >> 
> >> >> > "done" and the fact that it didn't get any development doesn't mean
> >> 
> >> it
> >> 
> >> >> > should be killed.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Of course. But kmail (not kmail2) is _dead_. It's bugs should be
> >> 
> >> closed.
> >> 
> >> >> It's silly to see it cluttering up bugzilla's weekly top-twenty stats.
> >> > 
> >> > Same as before, ideally we'd have someone going over the bugs and
> >> 
> >> deciding
> >> 
> >> > what still happens and what still not and move over to kmail2.
> >> > 
> >> > Now one way of doing this is crowdsourcing it to the reporters via a
> >> 
> >> nice
> >> 
> >> > bug
> >> > closing email for every of the unmaintained bugs/apps.
> >> > 
> >> > In one hand it always pisses me a bit off when that happens (i.e. i
> >> > reported a
> >> > bug and the only acknowledgement i get is years later saying that it
> >> > was
> >> > 
> >> > against an unmaintained version that i should re-check), in the other
> >> > if
> >> > 
> >> > someone is able to write a nice text it may not be so bad.
> >> 
> >> I like this idea... possible text
> > 
> > It's nice. We would need another version for those bugs that belong to
> > products that have other products the bug may apply to, say kmail ->
> > kmail2, kword -> calligrawords, etc.
> 
> When Calligra appeared bugs have been copied from KOffice for
> duplicated apps -- IIRC. Or not?

Maybe for calligra, but for kmail? or for kghostview, kpdf -> okular?

I think it's still nice to have that text.

Cheers,
  Albert




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