[kde-community] Fundraising

[Jos Poortvliet]

On Friday 18 July 2014 11:07:49 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Thursday 17 July 2014 10:50:04 Mario Fux wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2014, 10.16:43 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> > 
> > Morning
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > > +1 too, but I would in addition like to have the "Sponsor KDE..." or
> > > > whatever entry in the Help menu, close to nobody will find such stuff
> > > > in
> > > > "About...".
> > > 
> > > True. Note that instead of 'donate' or 'sponsor', I'd prefer to have a
> > > link to 'support KDE' or 'contribute to KDE', and have it go to a page
> > > about more than donating. Give quick links to ppl to tweet, like etc on
> > > social media (bit like this: http://owncloud.org/promote/ ) and a link
> > > to our pages on how to get involved. In short - it should be about
> > > helping out in general.
> > 
> > To be honest I don't like this idea. Don't make it to difficult to
> > donate.
> > It's already finding it under "Help" -> "Donate to/sponsor KDE" -> then
> > you'd get a window with our donation page where you decide on the amount
> > (with a good default amount) of money and press the donate button.
> > 
> > I think it's impeding and makes it to complicate to have there a website
> > with a lot of text one needs to read or at least get an overview to see
> > where one could donate. I agree that donations and other contributions
> > are
> > equally valuable but let's not make it too difficult and try to achieve
> > everything in one go and in the end nothing at all. Contributing
> > (technically, translation, promo, etc.) is a broad and longer-term thing
> > where-as a donation is (at least in the beginning) a quick and fast
> > action.
> 
> Yes, I agree it shouldn't get confusing...
> 
> Then again, first asking people to tweet how they like KDE, then asking for
> money makes use of this wonderful cognitive dissonance thing, increasing
> the chance of donation by about 30% I believe. The question then is if
> that 30% compensates for the added complexity...
> 
> We can even experiment, if we want. I think the term 'contribute'

Or support of course, might be the best. After saying each of these words 10 
times, however, they all sound silly so now I'm confused.

> is better
> than donate in any case, but we can have two different windows pop up
> (after all, it goes via a browser to kde.org anyway, right?) and have one
> have just an amount and a pay button; perhaps with a picture of a
> hackathon or whatever*. And another one a little more elaborate with links
> to other ways of helping out - see what works best based on some
> statistics. Statistics can solve any dispute, haven't you heard?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> * A starving hacker? or a cute, sad looking dragon? A duck swimming in
> money probably gives the wrong impression... Of course, we can always
> resort to ponies and unicorns farting rainbows, Martin would certainly
> quickly mock something up in QML.
> 
> > Oh and I like very much the idea of Boud to add right most (RTL:
> > left-most) this "Donate to/sponser KDE" action/button to the tool bar of
> > most of our apps.
> > 
> > And btw I somehow plan to have a photo session or two in Randa where I'd
> > like to see my son and some other KDE people in front of the camera and
> > some tablets, touch screens or other computers to get some nice pictures
> > for a new donation page.
> > 
> > That's it from me for the moment
> > Mario
> > 
> > PS: Of course I think as well that a button/menu entry to "Contribute to
> > KDE" makes absolute sense but please add it alongside the "Donate button"
> > and don't mix it.
> 
> Let's stick with one button and think about the best term. Donate is more
> precise than 'contribute' but the latter allows us to find out how we can
> wrangle the most money out of our user base*...
> 
> * that makes me sound evil, doesn't it? But it is all for the Good Cause!
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