[kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

[Albert Astals Cid]

El Dijous, 16 de gener de 2014, a les 22:13:58, Kevin Krammer va escriure:
> On Thursday, 2014-01-16, 22:07:17, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El Dijous, 16 de gener de 2014, a les 12:05:17, Aaron J. Seigo va 
escriure:
> > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:46:33 Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 2014-01-16, 10:43:42, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > > I also thought about plasma-windowed when reading that :)
> > > > 
> > > > However, I think it is one of those "hidden gems" that nobody knows
> > > > about.
> > > > I've had questions like "can I run $applet stand-alone" on the user
> > > > support
> > > > lists a couple of times and plasma-windowed was the answer.
> > > > 
> > > > Its drawback currently is that it is not very easy to figure out what
> > > > to
> > > > pass as its commandline argument.
> > > 
> > > KRunner will do this for you, actually. If you type “calc”, and the
> > > plasmoid runner is installed, you’ll get a match offering to run the
> > > plasmoid in a window. Well, it doesn’t  actually *say* that, since
> > > that’s
> > > jargon, but that’s what the match does.
> > > 
> > > For plasmoids suited to being run as an app they should also install a
> > > .desktop file with this command in it so that it is completely
> > > transparent
> > > to the user.
> > > 
> > > All of the above occurs in Plasma Active, so we know it works well from
> > > a
> > > technical POV.
> > 
> > Can you start it from the command line?
> 
> plasma-windowed can be run from the commandline, e.g.
> plasma-windowed org.kde.networkmanagement

That's a bit too long vs "kcalc", but i guess you could always install a shell 
script file in /usr/bin/kcalc that just runs "plasma-windowed 
org.kde.calculator" inside.

So basically there's no difference between a plasmoid and a non-plasmoid?

If that's the case, I don't understand why John started the discussion if we 
should favor plasmoids over non-plasmoids or viceversa since it seems to me 
"plasmoid or not" is an implementation detail.

John?

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> A hypothetical KCalc Plasma applet could also install a .desktop file that
> has the appropriate Exec line.
> 
> Cheers,
> Kevin