[kde-community] Proposal: KDE Manifesto wording revision
Ingo Klöcker
kloecker at kde.org
Tue Nov 12 20:49:48 GMT 2013
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 21:33:05 Kevin Ottens wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sunday 10 November 2013 21:46:41 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 November 2013 18:28:58 Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > > That's what this email is about, I'd like to apply the attached
> > > patch, it's mostly about small scale changes. I don't see
> > > anything which could be controversial in there.
> > >
> > > Any opinions on this? I'd like to collect feedback before
> > > proceeding
> > > with a vote of the e.V. membership and then a push.
> >
> > It's really a minor point, but I don't understand the change of
> >
> > * Stand on the shoulders of giants
> >
> > to
> >
> > * To stand on the shoulders of giants
> >
> >
> > Why does this phrase now begin with "To"+verb when all other phrases
> > (still) start with a verb without leading "To"?
>
> As Aaron noted, it makes use of an active form instead of passive. To
> be honest it's kind of subtle to me as a non-native speaker I don't
> mind either way. :-)
Same here. I don't get why "Stand" is passive since I read it as "You
stand [...]" which is active (AFAIU) while "To stand" is neither an
active form nor a passive form but the ("to" +) infinitive from. :-)
> > IMHO the leading "To" makes the phrase sound less personal. When I
> > read the other phrases I mentally add a "You" or a "You can", as in
> > "You can make use of KDE infrastructure [...]", "You benefit from
> > [...]", "You get support from [...]", etc. The leading "To"
> > prevents this.
> I don't see why the leading "To" would prevent that.
>
> Now indeed we might have inconsistencies regarding passive vs active.
> If you don't mind, I propose we ignore that point for now, and once
> we're done with this bunch of edits, we try to get a native speaker
> attached to a chair until (s)he make the pages consistent in that
> regard.
Agreed.
Regards,
Ingo
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