[kde-community] Statement of support for our devs?

[Martin Graesslin]

On Monday 21 October 2013 01:57:46 Alvaro Soliverez wrote:
> Martin has written repeatedly he thinks he is going through abusive
> behaviour and baseless claims. And it is not pointed only to him but
> to a KDE project (KWin specifically, but KDE SC as a whole for
> supporting Windows and not Mir)
> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/10/thoughts-about-the-open-source
> -tea-party/
> 
> And we are going to just keep hacking on our projects and do nothing?
let me just says THANK YOU! It felt very good to see this thread :-)

I do not consider the fact that Mark attacks me (though I have an unread mail 
from him in my inbox with subject "Not a personal attack") as a problem which 
requires a public reply. But I consider the fact that Mark attacked basically 
all of FLOSS in one go and gives fanboys and trolls more false claims to throw 
at us as a huge problem. I think we as a community should stand united against 
such attacks against FLOSS - we can see that for example Lennart also 
considers that the post was aimed at himself and wrote a response very similar 
to mine. It's not about me or KDE, it's about our friends at GNOME, Red Hat 
and Intel, too.

Now I do not think that having a public article on that topic on the dot would 
do any good. There has been enough about it already on the Internet and I 
think Mark is by now quite aware that it backfired.

Nevertheless I would suggest that the CWG gets in contact with the respective 
members of the Ubuntu community (e.g. Jono) to make clear that such a behavior 
is not accepted inside the KDE and Ubuntu community (both I and Lennart point 
to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct for example).

Cheers
Martin
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Alvaro Soliverez <asoliverez at kde.org>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> I think this post by Mark Shuttleworth (
> >> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 ) deserves some kind of
> >> formal statement of support for our devs.
> >> It is an unequal statement, and it was a personal attack on one of
> >> KDEprojects because we made a decision based on technical grounds they
> >> don't like.
> >> I don't want an answer to Mark, but a very firm statement that KDE
> >> makes decision based on technical reasons and not some ideological
> >> stance would be great. And that KDE (the community) stands behind
> >> every project.
> >> 
> >> We know the kind of pressure that developers can go through, and
> >> support from the rest of the community would be nice.
> >> 
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Alvaro
> >> 
> >> PS. Someone going behind scenes and asking Mark to tone down his posts
> >> would be fine too, but the cat is out of the bag and a public balanced
> >> but firm statement is needed.
> >> _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > Hi,
> > I think that the best way to show that we're on the right track is by
> > supporting our fellow members development and by doing actual work.
> > 
> > Playing politics is dangerous and this subject has definitely grown too
> > much from my point of view.
> > 
> > Keep calm and happy hacking!
> > Aleix
> > 
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