[Kde-accessibility] experimental idea with colour fonts

[Rob Whyte]

Hi,
Well put, in fact I am a text to speech user and would very much like to
be able to dive in to KDE but have access to very little of it with Orca.

Thanks
Rob Whyte

On 08/10/14 09:32, Gustav Degreef wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have serious vision problems and I've been using KDE for about 14
> years.  I do 90% of my computer work on linux.  I am also a physician
> who used to do clinical research.  I am not entirely clear about the
> idea of the colors/fonts yet I have read quite a bit of this thread. 
> Perhaps I missed some messages.
>
> But maybe I can make a suggestion.   Have a dialogue with a few visually
> impaired KDE users.   Find out from them where KDE is helpful and what
> is missing pr needs improvement.  Work/communicate directly with a few
> visually impaired users.  One can then "experiment" see how this idea
> fits with what is needed, what could be done to put it into an
> application or function.  Then that preliminary application can be
> tested further with a few more users.  Once the application or function
> is relatively mature it is ready to be tested on a larger scale.   By
> then one should be able to find a larger "population" of test subjects
> with a more clearly defined type of visual impairment.  There are
> different types of visual impairment and a variety of possible "tools"
> that can help.  Hope this is of some use, Gustav.
>
> On 09/30/2014 08:32 PM, michel wrote:
>> hmmm
>>
>> what about starting with adding in the default installation the colour 
>> alphabet highlights for kate/kword i made? (very simple, not the coding of the 
>> century)
>> It's everyday usable. Need to change the default to something smarter, i just 
>> put in something random.
>> i think it will be at least as useful as the ascii art driver for vlc :P
>>
>> An idea:
>>
>> They are a bunch of charities on the web. We could ask them to test the idea.
>> But KDE has to do that, not me. Maybe along side with Firefox? (KDE would have 
>> to ask Firefox, not me....)
>> KDE/Firefox would pledge to implement the idea, if the tests seam conclusive. 
>> There should be in advance some agreement, about what implement and conclusive 
>> means.
>>
>> (oh joy, free software politics)
>>
>> What you think?
>>
>> On Tuesday 30 September 2014 11:03:28 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
>>> Michel,
>>>
>>> That's the problem there. We developers of KDE-Accessibility
>>> applications don't know our users. The KDE Community is trying to get
>>> something figured out in this regard to help us find and reach out to
>>> our users but it's not in place yet. Currently the only way we have
>>> any knowledge of who's using our software is feedback we get by
>>> e-mail, forums, or bug reports. This is very likely a very small
>>> percentage of the users of KDE software itself and most likely not a
>>> very good group of those that find kde accessibility software useful
>>> or required for their situations unfortunately.  If you have any ideas
>>> for how we could contact more users and find out who they are, what
>>> their needs are etc. we are open to ideas.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:24 AM, michel <okgomdjgbmoij at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, there's the greasemonkey script and the kate highlights definitions
>>>> that i made... I mention them on an other email
>>>>
>>>> The colours have to be user defined, not hard coded. I don't see the point
>>>> in trying to define a certain colour code. The user can always just
>>>> change the definitions to his liking/abilities.... Also i don't think
>>>> it's that difficult to do.
>>>>
>>>> Most importantly, where do i find people with visual problems?
>>>> That's more difficult then it looks like.
>>>> Can some one please help with this point?
>>>> We'll use the scripts i already made on them, and they'll report back
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Can some one help with finding test subjects? I'm not networked with
>>>> people
>>>> like that....
>>>>
>>>> It isn't possible for KDE-accessibility to ask it's user to participate in
>>>> a little experiment?
>>>>
>>>> Is there any KDE-accessibility leader reading this?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday 30 September 2014 09:49:05 you wrote:
>>>>> This seems like a good idea to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend making a sample webpage, or a mini app, and do some
>>>>> research with it on people that have visual problems. Get some feedback
>>>>> from them, make some changes, find out which color combinations are
>>>>> best. Find out if they would like to habe something like that on their
>>>>> computer, and how much it would help them.
>>>>>
>>>>> And finnaly make a report with all that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think implementing this in KDE would be problematic, but it must
>>>>> be
>>>>> worth it. The development time could take some time, and no one will do
>>>>> this if it turns out to be useless, or unused. The report I've mentione
>>>>> would be a good selling point for the ideea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan*
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