random and fixed features in mutipledataset

[Timothée Giet]

Hi,

I'm sorry I don't agree with that idea:

-having a fixed list like makes the activity predictable for the user,
so it's better to keep the randomness for the user to always have to
really look and think to provide the result accordingly.

-you talk about "if I'm working on a new number...", but that is not the
way it works, as each dataset provides a range of number, not a specific
new number.

Timo.


Le 02/08/2019 à 15:02, Emmanuel Charruau a écrit :
> Hi Akshay, Hi mentors,
>
> I see a major lack on the pedagocical use of multipledataset.
> It is only working in random mode at the moment, which causes me problems.
>
> Let me give you an example.
>
> If I am working on a new number in falling dice, for example 7 I want
> to be able to recall the other numbers but 7 more often than the other
> numbers.
> At the moment we will only give to the config file the following configuration :
>
> "level" : "3",
>          "objective" : qsTr("Select the number on dominoes up to 7"),
>          "words" : [
>             "1",
>             "2",
>             "3",
>             "4",
>             "5",
>             "6",
>             "7"
>          ]
>
> and apply random choices within these numbers.
>
> We should have the choice to be able to provide exactly the numbers we
> want to use through a list which will not be  random.
>
> Example if I want to teach 7:
>
>        "words" : [
>             "7",
>             "2",
>             "3",
>             "7",
>             "5",
>             "6",
>             "6",
>             "1",
>             "2",
>             "7",
>             "4",
>             "5",
>             "6",
>             "7",
>             "1",
>             "7",
>             "3",
>             "4",
>             "5",
>             "7",
>             "7",
>             "1",
>             "7",
>             "6",
>             "4",
>             "7",
>             "6",
>             "7",
>             "7",
>             "2",
>             "3",
>             "4",
>             "5",
>             "6",
>             "7",
>
>          ]
>
> Note how often 7 is present in the list (also 6 since theoritically it
> is the less well known numbers being just taught).
>
>
> I would also suggest to rename "words" into StaticListDataList and
> RandomDataList or whatever like this, as the keywords needs to be more
> generic than words and have modes (random or fixed list)
>
> In the activity I am writting at the moment, it will look like this:
>    "words" : [
>             "12345,2",
>             "1245,5",
>             "42,125",
>             "456,85",
>
> you can see that these data are not words.
> There are also other activities where we present images and not words.
>
> Finally if we use new keywords we can choose to keep the actual word
> "words" and not break the compatibility.
>
> Mentors, Akshay feedback is very welcomed :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Emmanuel