[gcompris-devel] Log Module for gcompris

Bruno Coudoin bruno.coudoin at free.fr
Sat Feb 7 09:05:07 UTC 2004


OK, instead of comment in the field, let's add a 'expected' and 'got'
field.

Is everybody ok with this.

I'll make this a top priority. I will release this feature in 5.1 and
shift the release date to sunday evening.
Mantas, you are lucky, one day more for your translation.

Bruno.

Le sam 07/02/2004 à 14:30, Ralf Jardon a écrit :
> Am Do, den 05.02.2004 schrieb Bruno Coudoin um 22:55:
> > Le mer 04/02/2004 à 12:54, Ralf Jardon a écrit :
> > > Am Mi, den 04.02.2004 schrieb Bruno Coudoin um 01:27:
> > > > I just commited the implementation of the trace format that includes the
> > > > keylog. 
> > > 
> > > Wow...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Ralf, it's up to you now to tell us if this is practical.
> > > 
> > > OK, first try:
> > > 
> > > gcompris_log_set_key k/6:k/1:k/2:q/1:g/5:g/0:g/1:f/2:x/2:f/7:f/1:f/0:t/1
> > > 
> > > The keylog is good but we have forgotten something :-)
> > > With this log i am not able to see the correct key.
> > > I have pressed the "k" three times but the "q" was the solution (the
> > > only visible letter on screen). 
> > > I cannot reconstruct the task. But the task is necessary to analyse the
> > > faults of the children.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps we can solve the problem in this way:
> > > 
> > > gcompris_log_set_key
> > > k/6:k/1:k/2:(q)/1:g/5:g/0:g/1:(f)/2:x/2:f/7:f/1:f/0:(tzg)[...]
> > > 
> > > The letters in brackets are the correct (visible) letters, if more then
> > > one letter are on screen, we can log all visible letters e.g. (tzg)...
> > > 
> > 
> > I believe it's becoming overly complex. Rereading the wiki at
> > http://www.ofset.org/wiki/index.php/GcomprisLogFormat
> > I think we can achieve what you expect without adding the keylog.
> > In this case, we could set a fail log each time he/she does wrong in the
> > comment field. You could get someting explicit like:
> > 2004;bruno.maison;bcoudoin;gcompris;gletter;1;2;FAILED;14;The user key
> > is 'a' the choices were 'cde'
> 
> It looks very good. All informations i need are in the line. The only
> unpractically is the missing seperator between 'key' and 'choice'
> (needed for CSV import). So i suggest:
> 
> [...]14;The user key is 'a'; the choices were 'cde'
> 
> Is it possible to implement it untill next Monday?
> 
> The study began and I need the program starting from Thuesday in the
> Kindergarten. 
> 
> The evaluation of Gcompris is part of my thesis. So - hopefully - you
> will get a scientific effectiveness proof in a few months. In the
> meantime i'll be glad to share some major results with you. I hope, with
> this results and with consideration of psychological theories, we are
> able to furnish proof of effectiveness. Based on this major proof we can
> improve the effectiveness of gcompris gradually.
> 
> Next time i'll tell you something about the theory of 'inductive
> thinking'. The 'babymatch' board is an example of this theory of mind,
> but we have to extend it a little bit in order to be able to work
> thereby scientifically.
> 
> Hope it's ok for you ;-)
> 
> > I can't imagine a teacher being able to read the keylog as we have it
> > now, too cryptic.
> 
> Agree...
> 
> Ralf.
> 
> 
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