Falkon UI for touch and handheld devices

[Genghis Khan]

Hello,

Please see review of Falkon UI on postmarketOS (Phosh).

Attached as PDF.

Regards,
  --GK~

On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 13:46:24 +0200
Genghis Khan <genghiskhan at gmx.ca> wrote:

> Please see notes below.
>
> On Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:53:01 +0100
> Juraj Oravec <jurajoravec at mailo.com> wrote:
>
> > On pondelok 5. decembra 2022 17:00:22 CET Genghis Khan wrote:
> > > Please pardon me for triple mailing.
> > >
> > > Another observation below.
> >
> > That is fine, I just read the last one.
> >
> > > TOOLBAR
> > > -------
> > > Falkon should have all toolbars hidden by default except
> > > Navigation Toolbar.
> > >
> > > Search Bar (a part of the Address Bar) should be disabled.
> > > This can be done now by collapsing the Address Bar to the Search
>
> ... and from "Configure Toolbar" dialog.
>
> > > Bar, but it really should be completely disabled as the
> > > display might be too narrow.
>
> Please ignore it.
>
> >
> > Provide a custom config by the distribution, or might need a way to
> > introduce some defaults during compile time.
> >
>
> Custom config is fine.
> Search Bar can be completely hidden from the "Configure Toolbar"
> dialog.
>
> > > TABS
> > > ----
> > > Tabs should be disabled by default in favor of (New) Windows.
> >
> > That might break too many things, you are better of making a new
> > interface over QtWE.
> >
>
> Please ignore it.
> The Vertical Tabs are a better solution.
>
> > > TABS
> > > ----
> > > I think that a convergenced Vertical Tabs sidebar can be enabled
> > > by default, which I think is a very good solution and will allow
> > > users to handle sessions of multiple tabs.  It seems that such
> > > solution isn't offered by any web browser yet.
> >
> > There is already a similar request on the bugtracker but this should
> > be extended to sidebar itself.
> >
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462085
> >
>
> A vertical bar to toggle the sidebar, similarly to LibreOffice and
> Otter Browser, or as described in ticket #462085, would be a solution
>
> > > SUGGESTIONS
> > > -----------
> > > For the time being, suggestions should be disabled so it won't
> > > interrupt user typing on virtual keyboard, unless theses's a way
> > > to program the suggestions in a different way that would not
> > > interrupt typing.
> >
> > Suggestions can be disabled by a config option. Other stuff may
> > require aan investigation on how the touch input works together with
> > current suggestion method.
> >
> > > TOOLS BUTTON
> > > ------------
> > > Button "Tools Button" should be hidden by default and dialog
> > > "Configure Toolbar" should be available inside Preferences ->
> > > Appearance.
> >
> > Another thing for custom config.
> >
> > > ICON
> > > ----
> > > Falkon should change its icon to favicon, if available, for each
> > > active tab.  This is the begaviour of the default web browser of
> > > LineageOS and it seems useful.
> >
> > Interesting, but I believe there is a similar request tied together
> > with --app mode which I think include changing the icon to either
> > the specified one or the one provided by page. Well I preffer to
> > keep the same icon, often the icons provided by web are not good
> > enough.
>
> Please ignore it in favor of Vertical Tabs.
>
> > > SETTINGS
> > > --------
> > > Preferences and other dialogs should be stretched, that is occupy
> > > Falkon main window.
> >
> > Not gonna happen.
> >
>
> Not even for handheld mode?
> This is not strict to all mode, only to handheld.
>
> > > Preferences and other dialogs should also be adapted to smaller
> > > displays.
> >
> > Some work can be done on this to at least have a way to get to all
> > options on smaller screens.
> >
> > > STATUS BAR
> > > ----------
> > > This issue is also relevant to Sway Window Manager for Wayland.
> > > Menus of status bar are opened to the buttom which makes them
> > > unusable when Falkon is maximized (streched).
> >
> > Doe not happen on my desktop OpenBox setup, so this is either Qt or
> > Wayland issue. Or is there a real way we can influence how menu is
> > displayed?
> >
>
> It happens on Phosh.
> It happens on Sway only to the Proxy Submenu.
> I didn't look into Plasma Mobile.
>
> Perhaps avoid sub-menus for statusbar menus or make them all like the
> RSS menu.
>
> > > MENU
> > > ----
> > > Context menu might need some changes, but I think it's best to
> > > leave
> > > it after users provide feedbacks for Handheld Mode, perhaps under
> > > "Appearance" or "Configure Toolbar".
> >
> > Yeah, incpect element is missing icon on my setup, may fix that.
> >
> > > FINAL NOTE
> > > ----------
> > > I think we need to add a Handheld Mode to Preferences ->
> > > Appearance,
> > > and when this mode is made available, Falkon is perfect for
> > > handheld devices.
> >
> > It feels more like a whole fork in terms of visual stuff. There are
> > stuff listed which can be easily done by changing configuration and
> > some stuff which would be nice to have anywhere and not just the
> > handhelp 14 inch laptops.
> >
>
> I'll make a document of what is config related and what of UI, and
> I'll send it to you before opening a ticket.
>
> > > Juraj, please do let me know how can I help.
> >
> > Falkon needs a lot of work as it is, so this all will have to wait
> > until someone starts working on it.
> >
> >
> > > MENU
> > > ----
> > > Menus should not contain sub-menus, so essential menu items should
> > > be placed on the main menu (e.g. sessions, history and bookmarks
> > > sub-menus to be removed and page sourc, full screen, zoom in/out
> > > to be moved to the main menu).
> >
> > I believe this should be handled by Qt itself. It should be told it
> > is a touch device and menus should react in a way it is proper on
> > such a device. I personally hate the Firefox menu when I have to
> > click all the time.
> >
> > > ENCODING
> > > --------
> > > Character Encoding sub-menu should be available in a form of a
> > > dialog when each change will be "Previewd" upon click.
> >
> > I wonder if this can be done or how this even works, this one is
> > interesting since it would be helpful anyewhere to have a live
> > change (assuming it is not there yet)
> >
> > > FULL SCREEN
> > > -----------
> > > Navigation Toolbar shoud be always visible, because F11 key isn't
> > > available on all th keyboards and when it is, it requires several
> > > clicks to reach to.
> >
> > This is either already there or it can be done as an option and
> > might be helpful at some time.
> >
> > > SEARCH
> > > ------
> > > Search Bar (Ctrl+F) buttons should not have Next Previous text and
> > > Match Case button should be replaced by an icon.
> >
> > There could be an option at worst case, I wonder.
> >
> >
> >
> > These are my thoughts, so take it as an opinion of a thickheaded
> > stubborn man.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Juraj
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