[digiKam-users] First contact to the community (Gilles Caulier)

[Jean-Pierre Boucher]

Hello Michel,
(If you please transfert this message to Gilles)

Thanks for your proposal to review my translation but it's still too early,

In fact, I think I can actually provide you with several documents at
the end of November, I did say several documents because I'm going to
segment the current document into several parts:

1-a user manual describing only the functions of the image manager and
the image editor,

2-an installation and first connection manual,

3-an import/export tools manual

and several tutorials; on image formats, on colorimetry and profiles,
on methodologies (for example DAM) , and others that I don't think of
yet at this moment...

 In fact I don't want to lose the cultural substance of the current
Manual, and also out of respect to those who wrote this manual🙏, of
course there are many shortcomings , bijective inconsistencies between
the Manual and the product but many things in it are very
interressing...

And that is why I will also do the same separation with the english
manual so that you can see another documentation easier to maintain
and also... easier to translate in others languages, I will probably
need help from the community to make screenshots of the English
version (which correspond to the current version 😉!) and many other
things like for example the description in English of the functions
indicated like TO DO ;-) ... For the moment the idea  is to offer you
another vision of the digiKam documentation, on the other hand I do
not feel up to it, nor the skills to return to them digiKam's
documentary production mechanisms and I'm sorry about that. Of course,
I would like Gilles to read this email, which I consider to be the
pillar of this community of men and women of good will 😊
 Best regards
Jean Pierre


Le ven. 28 oct. 2022 à 16:16, Michel Cambron <mcambron at videotron.ca> a
écrit :

> Bonjour Jean-Pierre,
> I am pleased to see that you have invested a lot of time to translate the
> documentation in French. I could help you in the review of the translated
> documents if you were interested. I would like to prepare a few video
> tutorials in French for the francophone  community on how to use DigiKam.
> Is it possible to communicate with you ( en français évidemment) to discuss
> with you? Gilles Caulier, would you also be interested in being part of the
> discussion to provide advice on the video tutorials?
>
> See Carafife videos as an example, he has produced and incredible set of
> high-quality video tutorials on ART and DarkTable and other applications.
> See https://www.youtube.com/user/carafife/videos?reload=9&app=desktop
> Best regards
> Michel
> Montréal, Québec
>
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> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 09:17:36 +0200
> From: Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
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> Hi Jean Pierre and welcome.
>
> I will respond to your mail in the mailing list with more details during
> this long weekend. I'm also French, living in the south near Aix en
> Provence.
>
> My time is limited actually in my office, this is why this response is
> short.
>
> So, à plus tard...
>
> Best
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> Note: Please only write in English in the mailing, to share your
> experience with all people present, else, it's more complicated. You can
> talk with me by private mail in French if you can , I always respond even
> if this can take time.
>
>
>
> Le jeu. 27 oct. 2022 à 19:08, Jean-Pierre Boucher <jp.boucher1 at gmail.com>
> a écrit :
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am a newcomer (72 years old) who went to discover digiKam (Version
> 7.8.0 on Windows 10 since October 11, I live in France in Ezy-sur-Eure 70
> km from Paris I am retired from the aeronautics (Flight Control Systems).
> >
> > Not finding substantial product documentation in French, I decided to
> fully translate the original manual (I'm in first draft on page 220/320, a
> lot of work ), but it will take me another 1.5 months or so to finish it.
> as faithfully as possible to the product.
> >
> > In this context, I test all the functions one by one in order to fully
> understand their use and take all the screenshots of the French version of
> the product.
> >
> > First observations:
> >     • For the attention of persons in charge of documentation
> >         ◦ The manual is very rich (almost too much), it is very
> informative, many topics overflow from the User Manual, which makes it
> difficult to maintain and translate. The related knowledge part could be
> documented separately (file formats, DAM methods, tool algorithms...etc)
> >         ◦ Functions are in the documentation but not in the product and
> vice versa (which makes the translation very complex)
> >         ◦ If you wish, I will make a detailed point of the
> > discrepancies and shortcomings (very many towards the end … "to do"
> > ;-) …)
> >
> >     • For the attention of people in charge of developments
> >     • Translating certain tools that don't work (in my version under
> Windows 10), even if there aren't many of them, is not easy, if only to
> take screenshots … (such as importing cameras)
> >     • If you wish, I will later make a detailed point of the anomalies
> > observed
> >
> > For now, regardless of the Manual, I am pleasantly surprised by the
> quality of this product, in 15 days of all-out testing I only had one crash
> (in the Clone Repair function).
> > For the Improvements I don't know who to address my requests to… I will
> prepare a small list by the end of November. They concern the tools of the
> image editor (some tools work perfectly, some lack ergonomics, some others
> are enigmatic ...), I find that for the classification part there is
> practically nothing to say except maybe the possibility of having a sort
> key on the search elements.
> >
> > I dare to hope that I have not wasted your time with my remarks.
> > In any case, congratulations for all your work.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Jean-Pierre Boucher
> >
> > Pour les francophones
> >
> >  Bonjour tout le monde,
> >
> > je suis un petit nouveau (de 72 ans) parti à la découverte de digiKam
> (Version 7.8.0 sur Windows 10 depuis le 11 octobre dernier, je vis en
> France à Ezy-sur-Eure à 70 km de Paris je suis retraité de l’aéronautique
> (Flight Control Systems).
> >
> > Ne trouvant pas de documentation substantielle du produit en français,
> j’ai décidé de traduire entièrement le manuel d’origine (je suis dans
> première ébauche à la page 220/320, beaucoup de travail), mais il me faudra
> encore 1,5 mois environ pour la terminer le plus fidèlement possible par
> rapport au produit.
> >
> > Dans ce contexte, je teste une à une toutes les fonctions afin d’en bien
> comprendre l’utilisation et faire toutes les captures d’écrans de la
> version française du produit.
> >
> > Premiers constats:
> >
> > A l’attention des personnes en charge de la documentation
> >
> > Le manuel est très riche (presque trop), il est très instructif, de
> > nombreux sujets débordent du Manuel d’utilisation, ce qui le rend
> > difficile à entretenir et à traduire. La partie connaissances connexes
> > pourrait être documentée séparément (formats de fichiers, méthodes
> > DAM, Algorithmes des outils...etc)
> >
> > Des fonctions sont dans la documentation mais pas dans le produit et
> > l’inverse aussi (ce qui rend très complexe la traduction)
> >
> > Si vous le souhaitez, je ferais un point détaillé des divergences et
> > des manquements (très nombreux vers la fin … « à faire » ;-) … )
> >
> > A l’attention des personnes en charge des développements
> >
> > Faire la traduction de certains outils qui ne fonctionnent pas (dans
> > ma version sous Windows 10), même s’il n’y en a pas beaucoup, n’est
> > pas chose aisée ne serait-ce que pour réaliser des captures d’écrans …
> > (comme par exemple l’importation d’appareils photos)
> >
> > Si vous le souhaitez, je ferais ultérieurement un point détaillé des
> > anomalies constatées
> >
> > Pour l’instant, indépendamment du Manuel, je suis agréablement surpris
> de la qualité de ce produit, en 15 jours de tests tous azimuts je n’ai eu
> qu’un plantage (dans la fonction Réparation par clonage).
> >
> > Pour les Améliorations je ne sais à qui adresser mes demandes… Je vais
> préparer une petite liste d’ici la fin du mois de novembre. Elles
> concernent les outils de l’éditeur d’images (certains outils fonctionnent
> parfaitement, certains manquent d’ergonomie, certains autres sont
> énigmatiques …), je trouve que pour la partie classement il n’y a
> pratiquement rien à dire sauf peut-être la possibilité d’avoir une clef de
> tri sur les éléments de recherches.
> >
> > J’ose espérer ne pas vous avoir fait perdre votre temps avec mes
> > propos
> >
> > En tous cas bravo pour tout votre travail.
> >
> > Bien Cordialement
> >
> > Jean Pierre Boucher
> >
> >
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:58:53 +0200
> From: Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
> To: digikam-users at kde.org
> Subject: Re: [digiKam-users] Display photo information on a picture
>         (JPEG)
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> Le ven. 28 oct. 2022 à 11:51, Michel Cambron <mcambron at videotron.ca> a
> écrit :
> >
> >
> > Bonjour Gilles,
> > Thank-you for your reply, I would like to see the photo info (shutter
> > speed, focal length, ISO, aperture with text ( signature)) on the final
> picture converted to a JPEG or a PNG or a TIFF format.
> > See picture file in attachment. Is it possible to do this in DigiKam?
> >
> > Thank you for the work you do on this amazing application.
> > Regards
> > Michel Cambron
> > Montréal
>
> Directly with digiKam in Image Editor, the Insert Text do not provide this
> feature.
>
> It's the same in BQM, except with the External Script plugin, where you
> can call ImageMagick for ex to superimpose text information extracted from
> image metadata.
>
> This BQM tool can call a bash script and deal with image processed in
> batch.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/icME0Uj.png
>
> Best
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
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