[digiKam-users] unable to remove stars
frederic chaume
frederic.chaume at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 15:49:05 BST 2021
thanks Maik for the explanation, even if I don't catch all the
interactions between the options
effectively following option are set:
- rescan file when file is modified
- read from sidecar
I think I don't need "the album monitoring for external changes during
runtime", until it is rescan at start-up or manualy triggered through
maintenance tool. As I said , I'm not targeting to modify metadata for
the Raw file outside DK, then which option(s) should I reset ?
regards
frederic
Le 19/07/2021 à 14:02, Maik Qualmann a écrit :
> I can reproduce all of your "problems". The main cause is the sidecar
> format. Your problems arise due to other settings.Short
> explanation:You use the album monitoring for external changes, this
> triggers a reread of the album when you change the RAF file. Together
> with the option of completely re-reading the metadata in the event of
> a change, the metadata is then also adopted for the JPG.Do you really
> need the album monitoring for external changes during runtime?When
> renaming the JPG image, the sidecar in the background is also renamed
> and now belongs to the JPG. But you have set that sidecar should only
> be used for write-protected files. This means that you cannot make any
> changes to the JPG, as the old metadata is always read from the
> sidecar. So you still have to manually delete the sidecar from the JPG
>
> Maik
>
> Am Mo., 19. Juli 2021 um 09:21 Uhr schrieb frederic chaume
> <frederic.chaume at gmail.com <mailto:frederic.chaume at gmail.com>>:
>
> Hi Maik
>
> here are some precision on the scenario I used:
>
> I have configured my camera to generate RAW + JPEG, then after
> import I
> have the following file in the folder:
> PIC1.RAW
> PIC1.JPEG
>
> then I filter RAW only , switch to full screen mode and then put 2
> * on
> the RAW. After synchronization the result is the following
> PIC1.RAW **
> PIC1.JPEG **
>
> and then I try to put 0 * on the jpeg, but after synchronization, the
> jpeg is back with 2 *
>
> so I put 3 * on the RAW file in normal screen view and after
> synchronization
> PIC1.RAW ***
> PIC1.JPEG ***
>
> seems that I'm unable to change the information on the JPEG, without
> changing it on the RAW
> this confirmed what you are saying, and the dependency of different
> image with the same basename (that wasn't the case in DK7.2,
> except when
> using the full screen mode)
>
> Based on your comment below I have renamed the JPEG in order to
> have a
> different basename
> PIC1.RAW ***
> PIC1-ORI.JPEG ***
> but I have the same behavior, unable to change the * of the JPEG
> without
> changing the * of the RAW. Is it normal ?
>
> Now I was thinking that the "compatibility" was only applicable to
> the
> sidecar , then the RAW file, so not sure to understand the
> relationship
> with the JPEG (where metadata are embeded into the file, right ?)
>
>
>
> thanks for your help
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 18/07/2021 à 11:56, frederic chaume a écrit :
> > Hi Maik
> >
> > you are right , but except the rotation, other star management was
> > working well in DK7.2
> >
> > in fact what I'm looking for is the following scenario:
> > - using DK for all metadata: import, tagging, geotagging, face
> > recognition, title, classification,...
> > - using DXO only for RAW postprocessing (without changing any
> tag or
> > title,...) and keeping the information from DK when generating
> a jpeg
> >
> > my understing is that the "compatible" option is using an extension
> > for the sidecar that can be understood by DXO, in the othercase the
> > RAW.XMP is not visible by DXO and then I'm loosing all information
> > from DK
> > Is my understanding correct ? any advice on best way to proceed ?
> >
> > thanks for your help
> >
> >
> > Le 18/07/2021 à 11:20, Maik Qualmann a écrit :
> >> We have already discussed this problem by the rotation thread. You
> >> are using
> >> the "compatible" sidecar format and have more than one image
> format
> >> with the
> >> same base name.
> >> Either you deactivate the "compatible" sidecar format or you
> save the
> >> derived
> >> images in a different folder or give them a different base name.
> >>
> >> I am even considering removing the introduction of the sidecar
> format
> >> that is
> >> common in the Windows world ...
> >> Another solution would be to add a filter to which file
> extension the
> >> sidecar
> >> is used. However, this would further complicate the possible
> settings
> >> for the
> >> user.
> >>
> >> Maik
> >>
> >> Am Sonntag, 18. Juli 2021, 10:16:49 CEST schrieben Sie:
> >>> Hi Maik
> >>>
> >>> here is the log file (attached)
> >>> what I have done :
> >>> ctrl-0 on the file , then apply synchronization
> >>> rotate the file (still have the problem I reported some weeks ago,
> >>> portrait is shown as landscape for jpeg (not raw)
> >>> try again the ctrl-0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and here is my configuration
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> thanks for your help
> >>> frederic
> >>>
> >>> Le 17/07/2021 à 23:08, Maik Qualmann a écrit :
> >>>> I cannot reproduce a problem here when setting or deleting
> ratings.
> >>>> Maybe
> >>>> it helps to post the output from the terminal as described here:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.digikam.org/contribute/
> <https://www.digikam.org/contribute/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Maik
> >>>>
> >>>> Am Samstag, 17. Juli 2021, 13:38:43 CEST schrieb Frederic Chaume:
> >>>>> Hi Maik
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just ctrl-0 on théâtre picture (as usual)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le sam. 17 juil. 2021 à 13:36, Maik Qualmann
> >>>>> <metzpinguin at gmail.com <mailto:metzpinguin at gmail.com>> a
> >>>>>
> >>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>> Do you use the Metadata Editor Tool or the digiKam right
> sidebar?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am Samstag, 17. Juli 2021, 11:58:54 CEST schrieb frederic
> chaume:
> >>>>>>> Hi all
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have installed DK 7.3 on windows and I have a strange
> behavior
> >>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>> trying to remove stars
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a picture (jpg) with 2 ** that I want to remove. so
> I put
> >>>>>>> 0 * on
> >>>>>>> it (with lazzy synchronisation) , but when I apply the
> change , the
> >>>>>>> stars are appearing again. (same for any other picture)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> any idea ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>> Frederic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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