[Digikam-users] Re: Digikam-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 21

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>   1. Re: Renaming photo files (Dotan Cohen)
>   2. Re: digikam, MacOS X, MacPorts and KDE and... carsh on
>      stratup (Gilles Caulier)
>   3. Re: Renaming photo files (Elle Stone)
>   4. Re: Renaming photo files (Elle Stone)
>   5. Re: Curves Adjustment - slider gradient problem? (Hev? Guy)
>   6. Re: documentation - where are the thumbnails? (Elle Stone)
>   7.  using extracted jpeg as "sidecar" for raw files (Elle Stone)
>   8. Re: digikam, MacOS X, MacPorts and KDE and... carsh on
>      stratup (G)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:13:15 +0200
> From: Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: Renaming photo files
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>        power of        open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
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> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 02:51, Elle Stone <l.elle.stone at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Could you just use digikam rename? That way you wouldn't have to worry
> > about upsetting, er, updating the digikam database.
> >
>
> If it will work on the entire album, that's tens of thousands of
> photos across a tree with over one hundred nodes, then that would be
> fine.
>
>
> > from the blue-circled "i"
>
> Where is this blue-circled "i"? I did find the Image->Rename option,
> but it will only work on selected photos and one cannot select all
> photos in the database. I did find a blue-circled "i" for
> Help->Components Information however this does not seem to be to what
> you are referring. I am on Digikam 1.7.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:36:24 +0100
> From: Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: digikam, MacOS X, MacPorts and KDE and...
>        carsh on stratup
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>        power of        open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
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> I reproduce exactly the same issue testing digiKam 1.8.0 on a fresh
> computer... and i found the problem...
>
> It's alwyas marble widget which exit create an exception when world maps
> data are not installed on computer.
>
> Install marble with maps data and all will work fine.
>
> Not : with digiKam 2.0.0, it do not crash immediately in this case, because
> worldmap widget used in digiKam switch by default to googlemaps, which do
> not depand of marble widget. But if you switch to local map, it crash
> immediately.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
>
> 2011/1/5 G <g.is at free.fr>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >    I'm new to MacOS X, I'm testing it to know if my future OS could be
> > other than Debian... It's a fine environment, but I have my MAIN
> > software to work. Digikam is THE one.
> >
> >    I've googled a few and install MacPorts, compile (12 hours...)
> > digikam and all the dependancies. Fine. I've a MacPorts folder in the
> > App Folder. I've a digikam.app, very nice.
> >
> >     But nothing at all when I'm lauching it... No error, no activity
> > and so bad, no pictures at all.
> >
> >     Is it a known problem ? Is it duu to my non-expert relationship
> > with MacOS X ?
> >
> >     Any idea welcome,
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >
> >     G.
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 08:06:13 -0500
> From: Elle Stone <l.elle.stone at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: Renaming photo files
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>        power of        open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
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> To open the rename dialog:
> There are three ways that I've found (possibly there are more):
> 1.Select a few photographs, right-click, and rename is the fifth
> option down the list on my version of digikam (1.7 from philip5 ppa,
> running on ubuntu 10.10). 2. select and then hit F2 opens the dialog.
> 3.Menu-Image-Rename.
>
> The blue circle:
> When the rename dialog is open, look at the blank box where you enter
> your renaming information. The line has an x inside a funny arrow at
> the end, next to a drop down arrow. Just to the right of the box is an
> icon that looks like a pencil (sort of - it is too small for me to
> really see what it is supposed to be). Clicking on the pencil (if that
> is what it really is) brings up several options. "Replace" is one of
> the options. But ignore the pencil icon for now. Look to the right of
> the pencil icon to see the blue circle with the "i" in it to see a
> list of all the renaming options, along with an explanation.
>
> To select all the items in an album:
> Go to the menu at the top, click on View, look to the next to the
> bottom option where it says "Include Album Sub-Tree" and check it.
> That way, the entire album is visible. Warning: at least on my
> computer, clicking on an album with 5000 images sends the cpu up to
> 100% for maybe 15 seconds (my computer is over five years old).
>
> Will it work on your entire album without any problems?
> I am not a digikam expert. I am in the process of learning how to use
> digikam. I did a rename on a test album with 500 images. It went
> flawlessly. But I wasn't removing ":".
>
> I did a test rename on a couple of images after inserting some random
> ":" just to make sure I gave you the right string to put in the box.
> It also went flawlessly.
>
> Databases scare me silly just because it is so easy to upset them. If
> I were you I'd copy a couple hundred sample images to a test album and
> test away using digikam rename (and also maybe using Krename, whatever
> that is, if you don't like the results with digikam rename).
>
> It seems to me that there still is one bug with the rename, and that
> is with the {unique} option, but that shouldn't affect removing ":"
> from file names.
>
> My personal experience with other DAM software (photools imatch), is
> that if you rename outside the DAM software, it will treat the renamed
> images as new images. But if Krename is a kde ap, maybe that makes a
> difference, at least if you use a full-blown KDE desktop.
>
> Perhaps people more experienced in Krename/Digikam combo might speak up
> here.
>
> Hope that helps. There are no guarantees. Wish there were. Try a test
> album first. Best of luck and let me know how it goes.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Elle Stone
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:24:25 -0500
> From: Elle Stone <l.elle.stone at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: Renaming photo files
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>        power of        open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <AANLkTi=7asnsiXVvgCmM8syi-Hx+BMWg0tWOWREUwwuq at mail.gmail.com<7asnsiXVvgCmM8syi-Hx%2BBMWg0tWOWREUwwuq at mail.gmail.com>
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> Hmm, I just did some testing, being interested in this topic myself
> (having around 9000 files to rename). It seems digikam really does
> recognize when a file has been renamed outside of digikam. But please
> check for yourself!
>
> Here's the results of a little mini-test, and then a question for the
> digikam experts:
>
> Test results:
>
> With digikam closed, I renamed a couple of image files using xfe file
> browser. I have "rescan every start" disabled, so when I started
> digikam the old file name was still in use. But upon using
> Menu-Tools-'Scan for New Images', both files names changed to the new
> file name. More importantly, for one of the images, I had previously
> changed the metadata (using digikam) so it no longer matched what was
> in the image file, and that image showed up with the correctly changed
> metadata. So it looks like digikam really is reassociating the newly
> renamed file with the original database entry? Awesome.
>
> I checked the image file metadata using exiftool - all the original
> file metadata is still in place, untouched (as it should be, because I
> have digikam set up to not write metadata to the files).
>
> Then I accidentally had two instances of digikam running, and the
> first instance picked up a change in tags applied using the second
> instance. Then when I closed the second instance (thinking I'd closed
> digikam completely) and renamed a file using xfe, digikam (first
> instance) picked up the renamed file immediately, without even any
> kind of refresh. Awesome.
>
> Question:
> Using the "SQLite database browser" to inspect the contents of a
> digikam sqlite database, I see there is a "uniqueHash" of each image,
> which looks like an MD5 hash. Does the uniqueHash enable digikam to
> recognize that an image has been renamed outside of digikam, and then
> reassociate the new name with the existing database entry? Is this
> safe to do?
>
> Kind regards,
> Elle Stone
>
> On 1/6/11, Elle Stone <l.elle.stone at gmail.com> wrote:
> > To open the rename dialog:
> > There are three ways that I've found (possibly there are more):
> > 1.Select a few photographs, right-click, and rename is the fifth
> > option down the list on my version of digikam (1.7 from philip5 ppa,
> > running on ubuntu 10.10). 2. select and then hit F2 opens the dialog.
> > 3.Menu-Image-Rename.
> >
> > The blue circle:
> > When the rename dialog is open, look at the blank box where you enter
> > your renaming information. The line has an x inside a funny arrow at
> > the end, next to a drop down arrow. Just to the right of the box is an
> > icon that looks like a pencil (sort of - it is too small for me to
> > really see what it is supposed to be). Clicking on the pencil (if that
> > is what it really is) brings up several options. "Replace" is one of
> > the options. But ignore the pencil icon for now. Look to the right of
> > the pencil icon to see the blue circle with the "i" in it to see a
> > list of all the renaming options, along with an explanation.
> >
> > To select all the items in an album:
> > Go to the menu at the top, click on View, look to the next to the
> > bottom option where it says "Include Album Sub-Tree" and check it.
> > That way, the entire album is visible. Warning: at least on my
> > computer, clicking on an album with 5000 images sends the cpu up to
> > 100% for maybe 15 seconds (my computer is over five years old).
> >
> > Will it work on your entire album without any problems?
> > I am not a digikam expert. I am in the process of learning how to use
> > digikam. I did a rename on a test album with 500 images. It went
> > flawlessly. But I wasn't removing ":".
> >
> > I did a test rename on a couple of images after inserting some random
> > ":" just to make sure I gave you the right string to put in the box.
> > It also went flawlessly.
> >
> > Databases scare me silly just because it is so easy to upset them. If
> > I were you I'd copy a couple hundred sample images to a test album and
> > test away using digikam rename (and also maybe using Krename, whatever
> > that is, if you don't like the results with digikam rename).
> >
> > It seems to me that there still is one bug with the rename, and that
> > is with the {unique} option, but that shouldn't affect removing ":"
> > from file names.
> >
> > My personal experience with other DAM software (photools imatch), is
> > that if you rename outside the DAM software, it will treat the renamed
> > images as new images. But if Krename is a kde ap, maybe that makes a
> > difference, at least if you use a full-blown KDE desktop.
> >
> > Perhaps people more experienced in Krename/Digikam combo might speak up
> > here.
> >
> > Hope that helps. There are no guarantees. Wish there were. Try a test
> > album first. Best of luck and let me know how it goes.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Elle Stone
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:34:39 -0600
> From: Hev? Guy <heviiguy at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: Curves Adjustment - slider gradient
>        problem?
> To: Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
> Cc: digiKam, of open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
> Message-ID: <1294324479.21638.0.camel at hevii-NtBk-1>
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>
>
>
> On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 07:31 +0100, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>
> >
> > I missed to fix something ?
> >
>
> Yes, I think so.
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> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:09:25 -0500
> From: Elle Stone <l.elle.stone at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: documentation - where are the thumbnails?
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>        power of        open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
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> Giles, thank you for clarifying this for me.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:50:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Elle Stone <l.elle.stone at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Digikam-users]  using extracted jpeg as "sidecar" for raw
>        files
> To: digikam-users at kde.org
> Message-ID: <1294336233383-3177872.post at n4.nabble.com>
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>
> Hello digikam users,
>
> I don't want to use dng. But I would like a way to tag, caption, etc my raw
> files. I was thinking of extracting the embedded jpegs and using them as a
> handy "side-cars" for the raw files for tagging, rating, etc. Has anyone
> done so? How did it work for you? Any reasons why it is perhaps not such a
> good idea?
>
> If the jpeg "side-car"carries all the metadata produced by digikam, then if
> desired I could use exiftool to write selected jpeg metadata back to the
> corresponding raw file. And the jpeg offers visual confirmation that the
> jpeg actually belongs to its corresponding raw file.
>
> I've separated all my in-camera-produced jpegs into a separate album from
> my
> raw files. I don't shoot simultaneous raw and jpeg (slow, uses a lot of
> extra space on the card), so there is no problem of confusing an extracted
> jpeg from a simultaneously-produced jpeg.
>
> dcraw can extract the embedded jped: "dcraw -e *.cr2" (my camera is Canon
> 400d/xti). Not all the metadata gets carried across from raw to jpeg, but
> enough does, I think, for my purposes.
>
> exiv2 also can extract an embedded jpeg and keeps some? all? the metadata,
> but I don't know how to use exiv2 - does anyone have any hints?
>
> Thanks for advice,
> Elle Stone
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:28:48 +0100
> From: G <g.is at free.fr>
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: digikam, MacOS X, MacPorts and KDE and...
>        carsh on stratup
> To: digikam-users at kde.org
> Message-ID: <4D2609E0.1030604 at free.fr>
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> Le 06/01/11 13:36, Gilles Caulier a ?crit :
> > I reproduce exactly the same issue testing digiKam 1.8.0 on a fresh
> > computer... and i found the problem...
> >
> > It's alwyas marble widget which exit create an exception when world
> > maps data are not installed on computer.
> >
> > Install marble with maps data and all will work fine.
> OK. Thanks a lot for your investigation. I've found marble is included
> in kdeedu4 and you have worked fot it to work
> (https://trac.macports.org/ticket/25176)
>
> Just : How do you install maps data for marble ? No tips after 15'
> googling...
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> G.
> >
> > Not : with digiKam 2.0.0, it do not crash immediately in this case,
> > because worldmap widget used in digiKam switch by default to
> > googlemaps, which do not depand of marble widget. But if you switch to
> > local map, it crash immediately.
> >
> > Gilles Caulier
> >
> >
> > 2011/1/5 G <g.is <http://g.is>@free.fr <http://free.fr>>
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >        I'm new to MacOS X, I'm testing it to know if my future OS could
> be
> >     other than Debian... It's a fine environment, but I have my MAIN
> >     software to work. Digikam is THE one.
> >
> >        I've googled a few and install MacPorts, compile (12 hours...)
> >     digikam and all the dependancies. Fine. I've a MacPorts folder in the
> >     App Folder. I've a digikam.app, very nice.
> >
> >         But nothing at all when I'm lauching it... No error, no activity
> >     and so bad, no pictures at all.
> >
> >         Is it a known problem ? Is it duu to my non-expert relationship
> >     with MacOS X ?
> >
> >         Any idea welcome,
> >
> >         Thanks,
> >
> >         G.
> >     _______________________________________________
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> >
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