[Digikam-devel] Re: Cleaning up the main toolbar

Andi Clemens andi.clemens at gmx.net
Wed Nov 17 16:10:51 CET 2010


For me the QUIT action is the most useless action in any application. Who on 
earth uses it anyway (besides the shortcut)? I never clicked out File->Quit in 
my life :-)
And almost all computer newbies click on the X in the right corner as well.
Unfortunately it seems to be a styleguide that must be fullfilled. But where 
to put this action, "Album" is definitely wrong!

Andi Clemens
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www.digikam.org

On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:03:07 Gilles Caulier wrote:
> About the Quit action, i agree.
> 
> under mac, KDE wrap this action automatically into application name
> menu entry, managed by OSX :
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/5166481922/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/5166468008/
> 
> It sound logic for me.
> 
> under Linux and windows we can do the same as Amarok do. We just take
> a care about KDE action wrapping unde OSX to not have twice digiKam
> menu entries. I don't know how amarok do it exactly under mac, here
> amarok won't compile fine...
> 
> Gilles
> 
> 2010/11/17 Andi Clemens <andi.clemens at gmx.net>:
> > I still think that the QUIT action is totally misplaced in the "Album"
> > menu... This is what confuses me every time I take a look at the menues
> > (I don't use the Album and Tag menu, I always use the context menu, so
> > Marcel's suggestion about removing them is a good one, at least for my
> > day-to-day digiKam usage).
> > 
> > Andi Clemens
> > -----------------
> > www.digikam.org
> > 
> > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 15:46:29 Marcel Wiesweg wrote:
> >> > For me all is fine. About menu, the most bloated item is Image, with
> >> > all plugin actions.
> >> 
> >> Yes. Perhaps some of them can go to the edit menu (especially those that
> >> do image editing more or less ;-) )
> >> 
> >> > What's about Tags menu entry. It's lost ? This one is important and
> >> > must be updated with all main option available from right sidebar
> >> > (caption/tags pop-up menu)
> >> 
> >> I'm not sure about the Album and Tag specific entries. The problem is
> >> that there are 7 Album action (new, properties, open in..., metadata,
> >> delete) only applicate if the left sidebar is albums.
> >> For tags, 3 actions (new, reset thumbnail, delete, properties) are
> >> specific to the currently selected tag in one of the tag tree views; 2
> >> are global (New (toplevel) tag, from address book), some more act on
> >> the entries of the tag (export, batch), and the rest is very specific
> >> to the tree view.
> >> 
> >> There are more problems: If you choose from the menu Tag->New, the
> >> parent tag of the new tag will be the one currently selected in the
> >> left sidebar, even if a different sidebar is selected on the left.
> >> 
> >> So I thought about removing all actions from the main menu which are
> >> only applicable in a certain state of the left sidebar. But then I am
> >> getting afraid this would induce UI clutter.
> >> 
> >> Alternatives:
> >> 1) Keep Album/ and Tag/ main menus, but enable them only if the
> >> respective left sidebar is open. A possible first entry "Browse by"
> >> would switch to the sidebar
> >> Problem: entries disabled in many situations
> >> 
> >> 2) To the album and tag left sidebar, add at the top a toolbar with
> >> three entries "Create", "Edit" and "Actions" (or three separate
> >> buttons) Problem: UI clutter
> >> 
> >> 3) In the tree view, for the selected album/tag, draw a symbol,
> >> something like "v " or even text, and a click on this opens the context
> >> menu. Problem: still hidden functionality
> >> 
> >> > Most of lead pop-up menu entries are missing into main menu from album
> >> > gui. user must play with digikam before to see pop-up menu. main menu
> >> > is always visible, so main actions must be there.
> >> > 
> >> > Under macos-x, i see that pop-up menu available from right mouse
> >> > button is disable by default. I need to go to Mac Config Panel/Mouse
> >> > Settings to enable it. Can you image the first impression from a new
> >> > user under mac.
> >> 
> >> Afaik standard Mac mice dont event have a right mouse button?
> >> And even with the hardware, many unexperienced users will simply never
> >> use the context menu.
> >> 
> >> > Note : under mac, GoSC2010 code compile fine under XCode...
> >> 
> >> great. I was expecting more problems from boost graph ;-)
> >> 
> >> Marcel
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