Calligra 2.9.8 / Mac

[René J.V. Bertin]

On Thursday October 15 2015 19:47:10 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

> If you ask, personally I'd be rather interested in caring for 1.
> native look,

As I said, the best way to approach native look to date is to use QtCurve, at least with KDE4. The native Qt style has given us too many issues, and also wastes way too much space.
I'm part of those users for whom one of KDE's benefits is the possibility to use something other than the OS X look without having to resort to iffy 3rd party software that inject code into rendering engines.

> 2. current development branch i.e. 3.x.
My resources are spread too thin to jump into development branches of something as big as Calligra (and if 3.x is for KF5 it's a no-go for the foreseeable future anyway).

> so in the end of the day I see real users preferring consistency and
> predictability.

Indeed, I prefer consistency. If I chose and configure a style for my desktop, I do not want applications to think they know better. If really needed there is always the possibility to pick another style for applications that have issues with the local default...

> For Qt5/KF5, isn't the native style for simple layouts just fine? See [1]

(Please use inline URLs). 
That's on a high res screen, and (thus) not at all a reference for what happens on normal screens.
I also don't think Kate was ever particularly affected by the rendering issues with the native theme, at least not in the default window shown.

> To be honest, I don't expect to get it for free for complex layouts
> like sidebars. Neither on Windows. In mid term even some specific

"Get it"? Get what?

> (even if style guide isn't strictly codified on Windows, apps can look

It isn't on OS X either; the HiG are just guidelines (and AFAIK they also don't forbid using a different theming even if they evidently assume you don't. Apple themselves are among the worst offenders of their own HiG, btw.)

Kexi is a bit of a foreign duck in the pond in that it has an interface that appears to be inspired a lot by mobile devices. It doesn't strike the eyes as much when it uses a different style (it is affected by the glitches in the native Aqua style, btw, at least in the welcome view).
In fact, its look seems to be determined mostly by the user's choice of fonts, which are *not* part of the style...

R.