Karbon or Karbon14?

jaham at gmx.net jaham at gmx.net
Sun Feb 26 21:36:18 UTC 2012


On Saturday 25 February 2012 13:32:34 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012, 23:22:46 schrieb jaham at gmx.net:
> > On Thursday 23 February 2012 15:37:59 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > IIRC the official name of Karbon14 is now (Calligra) Karbon. But in the
> > > sources (including the .desktop files) the name is still Karbon14.
> > > Something inside me wants to fix this :)
> > > 
> > > Okay if I provide a patch to change the name from "Karbon14" to "Karbon"
> > > in
> > > all places left?
> > 
> > Yeah I think nobody is calling it Karbon14, it is too bothersome to call
> > it
> > like that. However I am not sure about it, but I think the name was chosen
> > to avoid any legal/trademark issues which might come up (i.e. not to
> > repeat
> > history as with the KIllustrator name).
> > So to sum it up, i would prefer dropping the 14 and just call it Karbon
> > (which we all do already), provided nobody thinks we might get into any
> > legal trouble.
> 
> So that potential trouble is actually why no real decision has happened I
> guess? Hm. The only thing I saw whose name is close was some API set, but
> that seems not a registered trademark and at least I do not see a risk for
> user confusion (thus legal rights for the first user of the name group), as
> the fields are quite different. But IANAL and do not know what actually
> strange rights are applied in whatever countries (e.g. having software
> still as one single group of products).

Well there was no pending decision waiting to be taken before you brought up 
the topic. But it might be a good idea to do that before our release I 
suppose. So lets make it official and written down what was done in practice 
anyway: drop the 14 from the name.

> 
> Then, calligra.org already says "Karbon", so that trouble is risked already.
> 
> So jump or stay where you are. Having just one leg in the water is enough
> for biting fish anyway ;)
> 
> > > PS: Have I already told how awesome I find Karbon? So far whatever I
> > > created as ODG file was nicely displayed, as expected! Only now I might
> > > have found the first bug (x y attributes in tspan ignored, but have to
> > > check this).
> > 
> > Thanks for you kind words, it is highly appreciated!
> > Regarding the bug, that refers to the svg:tspan child element from
> > svg:text, right? It should support the x and y attributes, but I am sure
> > there are still issues with that, so might be a real bug.
> 
> The attributes are read in the code, but something in the processing might
> not work. You can see an error yourself easily: add an artistic text shape,
> enter text with a linebreak, save the file and reload. The second line will
> now be placed somewhere different.

Indeed, it used to work though if i remember correctly.

> 
> Will file a bug about that, so it is not forgotten.

Great, thanks.

Ciao Jan


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