[Okular-devel] About Calligra Active and what it should intend to be

[Albert Astals Cid]

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A Diumenge, 9 d'octubre de 2011, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau vàreu escriure:
> Hi,
> 
> may I give a comment as outsider on the issue (also cross-posting okular-
> devel, please follow-ups only to calligra-devel at kde.org)
> 
> Mardi, le 4 octobre 2011, à 08:58, Inge Wallin a écrit:
> > On Monday, October 03, 2011 16:24:21 Vít Pelčák wrote:
> > > 2011/10/3 Shantanu Tushar Jha <jhahoneyk at gmail.com>:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > (Cross posting as the topic might be of interest to both MLs)
> > > > 
> > > > There was recently some discussion on the Active ML about
> > > > Calligra
> > > > Active and how to make the user experience better.
> > > > Aaron Seigo had an interesting suggestion in the mail he sent
> > > > [1]
> 
> which
> 
> > > > says-
> > > > 
> > > > "
> > > > but imho the most important thing is for these
> > > > projects to focus on being amazing document _viewers_.
> > > > "
> > > 
> > > I thought, Okular is for that. Why should I have Calligra installed?
> > > What is advantage? To have bazilion of viewers each being able to
> > > open
> > > only specific document?
> > 
> > Okular can show lots of formats, including odt actually, but it cannot
> > show ods, odp, odg or the other open document formats.  And, frankly, 
> > odt is not shown well.
> > 
> > So when you have a real document, either in the open document format or
> > in a microsoft office format, then Calligra is necessary.
> 
> Hm, but then for a real paged-document-type viewer Calligra again would
> miss to support all the many other formats that Okular has plugins for,
> besides PDF ;)
> Just see http://okular.kde.org/formats.php (maybe even outdated)
> 
> I wonder if somebody has not already started to instead write a Okular
> plugin which uses Calligra Core to load and render all the od* formats?

Someone wrote an okular backed for presentations based in calligra afair. And 
that was the plan we had with Inge back then in Akademy Dublin 2006, it just 
never materialized because KOffice never had a proper library that was really 
usable to external people.

> Which would be what I would expect to happen, after all Okular (Desktop)
> has been designed for document consumption, both in features and in UI.
> (No idea about the transitions which odp could ask for. Either Okular
> could get extended for that, or complicated transitions will just be
> ignored.)
> Or are there technical reasons which block that?
> 
> Yes, would be another level of dependency. Simply a pity.
> 
> Which gives me this idea:
> Perhaps Okular could become part of Calligra, being the
> "consumption/viewer UI" for paged-document-type formats, and your
> envisioned tablet/handheld UI would simply be the Okular Tablet/Okular
> Handheld variants.

To be honest I'm happy with Okular living where it is, I do not see any 
benefit in becoming "part of Calligra"

Albert