[Bugsquad] Looks like this bug is fixed ...

Myriam Schweingruber myriam at kde.org
Thu Apr 18 18:31:16 UTC 2013


Hi Richard,

Sorry, but I give up, as there seems to be a really profound
misunderstanding between us, you are interpreting my words in a very
strange fashion and even twist them to a meaning that is really beyond
my understanding. Maybe this is because English is not my mother
tongue and I formulated something wrongly, but I strongly suggest you
take this to where it belongs, namely the plasma developers.

I only happened to triage this particular bug as unmaintained because
I was asked to, I am not involved with the development nor am I
involved in the handling of that particular bug over time, so please,
don't kill the messenger.

Regards, Myriam

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Richard llom <richard.llom at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Myriam,
>
> Myriam Schweingruber wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Richard llom
>> <richard.llom at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Am 17.04.2013 21:22, schrieb Myriam Schweingruber:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Richard llom
>>>> <richard.llom at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> by random I noticed that notifications, do not longer have their lower
>>>>> part
>>>>> cropped. I did some testing and I think this is fixed as of 4.10.2 :
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278309
>>>>>
>>>>> However since there is no comment at all from any dev, does this mean
>>>>> this
>>>>> bug was fixed unintentional i.e. by "accident" ;-) ? Or do the/some
>>>>> devs have their own bugtracker?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This was not fixed, see comment #7 and no, the developers do not have
>>>> another bugtracker.
>>>>
>>> It wasn't fixed in *4.10.1 *, but as I said it is (at least here) in
>>> 4.10.2. (However I will ask the reporter to make sure.)
>>
>>
>> Please just leave that report closed,
>>
> I can't reopen the bug and I did not so in the past.
>
>> the new QML Notification went
>> life in 4.10.2, the old non-QML notification app is not shipped
>> anymore and will not get any code contribution anymore.
>>
> On bko you wrote it is 4.10 now it is 4.10.2 what is the case now?
>
>>>> No idea who reopened that, but the notification you see now in KDE
>>>> 4.10.2 is a different application, the old one is unmaintained and I
>>>> closed it as unmaintained with that comment...
>>>>
>>> Your comment (and the previous) is highly unclear:
>>> Does the different application mean there is a new product/component in
>>> bko? If so, which one?
>>
>> What is unclear? It is not maintained anymore because it is replaced
>> by a re-write in QML. If you want more information ask the Plasma
>> developers, I only do the triaging work.
>>>
>>> If not, why then fill a new report? The component in question could have
>>> been rewritten a 1000times (since those 2years) does this mean the report
>>> has to be rewritten a 1000times as well? I don't think so.
>>
>> Erm, that makes absolutely no sense to me, sorry.
>>>
>>> IMHO this should be moved to the new component (if there is) and marked
>>> as resolved *fixed*.
>>
>> No, as it was not "fixed"in that product. What do you not understand
>> in the fact that those are two different products?
>>
> Yes, I do not understand, because you don't tell me.
>>> Does the different application mean there is a new product/component in
>>> *bko*? If so, which one?
> What is the answer to this questions? I still don't know.
>
>
>> The code in product
>> A which the bug report refers to is faulty, the product is
>> discontinued as a better, new notification written with QMl replaces
>> it.  The notification you see in KDE 4.10.2 is a different code.
>>
> And the question is does it matter if there is a different code or not?
>
> IMHO the version and date mark the initial occurrence of a bug in the KDE SC
> (as a whole).[1]
> The code changes (i.e. is different) with every git-commit, so according to
> your logic after every git-commit all bugs are are to be marked as resolved
> unmaintained... ;-)
>
>
> Of course this still means the bug has to be (re-)validate after every code
> change (which was the case here, see comment #1, #2, 4# and #6). But you are
> proposing to close and open a new bug each time instead. This is not what
> I'm used to from other bugzillas/projects and it still doesn't sound very
> reasonable to me.
>
>
> Regards
> richard
>
>
>
> 1:
> From BKO:
>> Version
>> The version field defines the version of the software the bug was
>> found in.
> i.e ... was (first) found in.
>
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