Amarok 2 and iPhone/iPod Touch

[Seb Ruiz]

2009/4/16 Alejandro Wainzinger <aikawarazuni at gmail.com>:
> Yeah, seems like Solid should be able to poll for mounted volumes (if
> mounted by HAL), the problem is then figuring out whether it's an iPod
> or not.  I don't know what the filesystem looks like for iPhone and
> iPod Touch to check e.g. for the presence of an iTunes database.  I
> want to avoid hacks that will make it work in one case and not others,
> and in particular, i'd like to rely on Solid as much as possible to
> keep it cross-platform for when Windows/Mac get Solid backends.
>
> Doing this manually is exactly what I want to avoid.  Amarok 2 is also
> about ease of configuration.

That's all good and well, except supporting high profile and popular
devices like the ipod touch/iphone would outweigh the cons of doing
some shitty (less than elegant) hackery.

>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jeff Mitchell <mitchell at kde.org> wrote:
>> Nicolas Will wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 14:01 -0400, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
>>>> Nicolas Will wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 17:42 +0100, Nicolas Will wrote:
>>>>>> gtkpod does nothing to mount the iPod Touch, it uses mount points,
>>>>>> either over ssh (iPhone/iPod Touch) or from the USB mass storage
>>>>>> (regular iPods), AFAIK, but I'm no expert either.
>>>> When gtkpod adds files via the mount point, do they show up in the
>>>> iPod
>>>> player on the device?  i.e. is it still accessing the ipoddb and all?
>>>
>>> yup, no problem, music, movies, photos, all goes through properly and
>>> show up on the iPod. Amarok 1.4.x had no problem with that either.
>>>
>>> The problem is not with libgpod, it does its job.
>>>
>>> The problem is for Amarok to know that there is an iPhone/iPod Touch
>>> there.
>>
>> Sorry, my question wasn't clear.  It was: is gtkpod simply transferring
>> files to a certain location on the mount point, or is it interacting
>> with the iPhone's database?  (Do you use the iPod app on the iPhone to
>> play the music, or something else?)
>>
>>>>> The second one is through Gnome VFS, and I believe that this will
>>>> not
>>>>> fly within a KDE context...
>>>> Well, Solid can enumerate mount points, although I think it relies on
>>>> HAL for this.
>>>
>>> And HAL deal with real hardware, not FUSE mount points that are in fact
>>> very software-based beasts, at leat in the case of SSHFS or even iFuse.
>>>
>>>
>>>>   I think.  You could try running solid-hardware with
>>>> "solid-hardware list details" and "solid-hardware list
>>>> nonportableinfo"
>>>> and see if the mount shows up in either one of those.
>>>>
>>>> There may also be a KDE class for mountpoints...there used to be but
>>>> not
>>>> sure if that simply got folded into Solid.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now you have started speaking a foreign language to me...
>>
>> What is foreign about "run solid-hardware with 'solid-hardware list
>> details' and 'solid-hardware list nonportableinfo'"?
>>
>>> Could something in KDE just simply parse fstab?
>>
>> That's the class I was talking about.  Like I said, I don't know if it
>> still exists in KDE4, or simply got folded into Solid.
>>
>>> Would it be difficult to
>>> offer a manual way for a user to point to a specific directory/mount
>>> just like in Amarok 1.4?
>>
>> Unsure.  A problem with this is that asking the user for mount points
>> doesn't make any sense on Windows, and less sense on OS X (for the
>> average user).  Really, libgpod should do this parsing in a
>> platform-specific way and return the relevant info to library consumers
>> in a platform-agnostic way.  Alejandro -- probably something to look at,
>> especially if your SoC project gets selected...
>>
>>> I understand that what sounds simple and easy in my mind may not be that
>>> straightforward in the real world...
>>
>> Yes  :-)
>>
>> --Jeff
>>
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